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Subject: Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs

Author: Aaron Tay

Date: 04:50:50 02/14/02

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On February 13, 2002 at 17:22:46, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>On February 13, 2002 at 15:38:58, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>Black to move. The position is a draw, even if White could manage to win both
>>Black pawns. But quite a lot of [top] programs do not at all understand this and
>>show completely wrong evaluations.
>>
>>A good example where a 1500-ELO-player does better than the so called
>>2700-ELO-silicon-monsters!!
>>Kurt
>>
>>[D] 8/8/5k1p/6pP/6K1/8/8/3B4 b - - 0 1
>It seems to me that this is an illusion.I mean about 1500 Elo that you have.
>One just has to go over Rebel's lastest Gm Match Crush (wanderViel) to see
>how bad GM's play(or Kasparov Deeper Blue).The 1500 Elo player is not even
>comparable to a Computer Program.AnyWay there is nothing a 1500 player can
>do that a compp cannot.

>> [D] r7/3k2p1/3brpPp/p1p1pP1P/PpPpP3/1P1P4/4K3/8 w - - 0 1

How about not playing fxe6? Okay so I manged the
classic position, but this one is similar.









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