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Subject: Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:31:30 02/14/02

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On February 14, 2002 at 07:50:50, Aaron Tay wrote:

>On February 13, 2002 at 17:22:46, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2002 at 15:38:58, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>Black to move. The position is a draw, even if White could manage to win both
>>>Black pawns. But quite a lot of [top] programs do not at all understand this and
>>>show completely wrong evaluations.
>>>
>>>A good example where a 1500-ELO-player does better than the so called
>>>2700-ELO-silicon-monsters!!
>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>[D] 8/8/5k1p/6pP/6K1/8/8/3B4 b - - 0 1
>>It seems to me that this is an illusion.I mean about 1500 Elo that you have.
>>One just has to go over Rebel's lastest Gm Match Crush (wanderViel) to see
>>how bad GM's play(or Kasparov Deeper Blue).The 1500 Elo player is not even
>>comparable to a Computer Program.AnyWay there is nothing a 1500 player can
>>do that a compp cannot.
>
>>> [D] r7/3k2p1/3brpPp/p1p1pP1P/PpPpP3/1P1P4/4K3/8 w - - 0 1
>
>How about not playing fxe6? Okay so I manged the
>classic position, but this one is similar.


I am sure that programs can solve it by search.
They will see that white cannot prevent a new black queen after fxe6.

Uri

• Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Hans van der Zijden 07:44:56 02/14/02
  • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Colin Frayn 15:37:06 02/15/02
  • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Dann Corbit 14:01:58 02/14/02
    • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Hans van der Zijden 16:05:56 02/14/02
      • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Dann Corbit 20:01:33 02/14/02
        • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Claudio A. Amorim 03:16:06 02/15/02
          • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Dann Corbit 11:15:03 02/15/02
    • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Dieter Buerssner 16:02:16 02/14/02
      • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Dann Corbit 16:05:30 02/14/02
    • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs J. Wesley Cleveland 15:58:01 02/14/02
      • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs J. Wesley Cleveland 12:39:41 02/18/02
        • Re: Simple position - no understanding for many chess programs Roy Eassa 13:57:10 02/18/02

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