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Subject: Re: T2002 [60/120'] Standing after 68 rounds [Results, Comments, Games]

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 15:33:15 02/16/02

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On February 16, 2002 at 17:55:24, pavel wrote:

>On February 16, 2002 at 17:40:04, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2002 at 17:25:01, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>>Who can/will stop TheKing312X? It is incredible for how long the program of
>>>>Johan de Koning is leader in this tournament. And between top scorer TheKing312X
>>>>and Fritz7002 is already a gap of four points!!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>no offense to you, but I frankly don't believe that a program can improve so
>>>much just by tweaking it's settings. If this is so, then I have to say the
>>>programmer himself is ignorant enough to miss this, which is not the case for
>>>Johan de Koning. I believe there is some problem with the setting of the
>>>tournament.
>>>
>>>Let along being better than Fritz 7, I think TheKing engine is not even close to
>>>fritz7, perhaps 50-60 elo weaker, if someone can just increase the strength of a
>>>chess engine by 50-60 elo points just by tweaking it's setting, eiher there is
>>>something seriously wrong, or something ingenious happened. :)
>>>
>>>Even though the game number is not much, but it is clearly doing very well.
>>>
>>>Just my opinions, I maybe very wrong. ;)
>>>
>>>pavs
>>
>>
>> Just tweaking the settings?! Don't forget that TheKing has access to
>> TBs, playing in the CB-GUI. And, instead of the original 100Kb CM book,
>> uses the Nimzo book...
>>
>> Sune
>
>
>other than the fact that theking engine itself is very good at endgames, i
>wonder how much stronger does TBs make the program play?
>
>SO playing under CB gui makes program play better?
>I hope it was also the same for winboard enignes... ;)



 Closely related to this issue is the Malin adapter. It's a joy to see
 TheKing ponder under a CB GUI...


>
>Nimzo book wasn't written for CM, if it's helping him, it might also put it into
>trouble. I am not wrong Nimzobook is a great book made solely according to the
>stlye of nimzo.



 If I remember correctly, I think it was Dieepeven who stated that the
 difference between nobook/very small book (CM:s is 100kb) and a good book
 like the Nimzo book, could be up to 100 ELO. Might sound much but the
 difference from 5-5 to 5.5-4.5, in a match, is already 35 ELO.


>
>don't get me wrong, i am not saying I am right about Theking312x, it just hard
>for me to believe that you could make it play so strong than it really is, by
>tweaking it's settings.



 In the tournament mentioned, I see 3 differences compared to the "normal King".


 1) Access to Tbs
 2) Using the Nimzo book.
 3) New settings (increased King Safety for sure).


 Sune



>
>Atleast for me, unless I get to test it myself. ;)



>
>pavs



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