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Subject: Re: Hardware advantages

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:41:13 06/25/98

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On June 25, 1998 at 20:55:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>
>On June 25, 1998 at 17:13:57, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On June 25, 1998 at 13:31:30, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On June 25, 1998 at 12:15:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>I pointed out to Vincent last week here that he was not doing well playing
>>>>against Crafty.  He pointed out (factually, by the way) that Crafty has a
>>>>hardware advantage with the 4 processor ALR.  But he's going to have to take
>>>>a stand on one side of the fence or the other.  Either speed is important, and
>>>>his note about me having faster hardware does explain why crafty wins most of
>>>>the games played on ICC, or speed is not important and doesn't explain crafty's
>>>>win/lose ratio vs the various DiepX programs on ICC.
>>>
>>>This is a fascinating point.
>>>
>>>Some people might argue that speed doesn't matter, but I've yet to see one of
>>>them show up at a WMCCC on a crusty old 486 because they don't think it's worth
>>>the bother of copying their software to a faster machine.
>>>
>>>I'll take faster hardware any time, on ICC it's like a shot of adrenaline.  I
>>>get the idea that it matters less as the time controls slow down, but my
>>>experience is based upon pretty small hardware advantages.
>>
>>I have found the same to be true. As time controls get longer you need more of a
>>speed advantage to show the same rating advantage. A 25% speed advantage at 5
>>min chess is huge. At 3 min. a move is not much at all.
>
>Yes good that you point that out to the audience bruce,
>note that Ferret gets *huge* depths even in blitz.
>
>What level do you already hit 12 ply average in opening/middlegame
>with Ferret Bruce?
>
>>>bruce


vincent, you live in a different world from me.  In one post you say that
crafty "only gets 8-9 plies in blitz" while in the next you say "ferret gets
*huge* depths".  Sorry to tell you, but the last time *I* watched them play,
it was pretty much dead even.  Bruce can correct me if needed.  But since he
has added singular extensions, I may be going deeper (average) than him at
present.  Certainly not shallower...  at least that I have seen.



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