Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:35:53 02/18/02
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On February 18, 2002 at 05:23:44, Slater Wold wrote: >On February 18, 2002 at 02:20:30, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 18, 2002 at 01:23:46, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2002 at 01:08:49, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I am not going to repeat my opinion about deep blue here >>>> >>>>only one comment: >>>> >>>>It seems that you assume in this answer that software improvement to have >>>>better search rules than deeper blue are impossible. >>>> >>>>I disagree. >>>> >>>>I believe that a program can search less nodes and be better thanks to better >>>>search rules. >>>> >>>>x nodes of the programs of today are clearly better than x nodes of programs of >>>>1997 and x nodes of programs of 2010 are going to be better than x nodes of >>>>today. >>>> >>>>I believe that part of the improvement is better evaluation function but part of >>>>the improvement is also better search rules. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>>I think you're missing one thing: >>> >>>The makers of DB were *NOT* by any means idiots. They actually developed and >>>perfected some of the technics used in todays (top) chess programs. The >>>software side of Deep Blue is *no* worse than the software side of ANY program >>>currently on the market. IMO. >> >>I did not say that the makers of DB were idiots but I do not believe that they >>are god and it is impossible to find better things than they found. >> >>The software side of Fritz5 is worse than the software side of Fritz7 and it >>does not mean that the makers of Fritz5 were idiots. >> >>The software side of Fritz7 is worse than the software side of Fritz9 and it >>does not mean that the makers of fritz7 is idiots. > >No no. You misunderstood. I never meant to imply you said they were idiots, I >was just simply stating, they were not idiots. :) > >>I also do not know how can you be sure that the software side of deep blue is no >>worse than the software side of any program currently of the market. > >How am I sure? Well, I'm not. But like I said, they developed and perfected >technics that are being used TODAY. And DB's last game was several years ago. They also used techniques that are not used today and nobody is using their singular extensions in the way that they used it. I do not think that all of the programmers of today are stupid. I guess that they found better ideas. Uri > >>Uri
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