Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:13:02 02/18/02
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On February 18, 2002 at 21:17:24, Albert Silver wrote:
>On February 18, 2002 at 20:46:34, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:42:17, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:25:05, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>Chess Tiger 14 is 100 points WEAKER than TheKing ??
>>>
>>>Keep in mind a few things:
>>>
>>>- The engines are playing with ponder OFF, which although ideal for a single
>>>machine, can seriously affect the overall result.
>>
>>
>>I don't think that any engine is handicapped by ponder=off.
>>
>>At least I can say that mine is not, so this is not a valid excuse for Tiger.
>
>Not handicapped, but different, and in this case different means we don't know.
>Take the same engines with the same opening moves with the same hardware but
>give them individual computers with ponder on and who can say what will happen?
>It's hard to say.
>
>
>>Tiger is not handicapped by this. It would be handicapped if for example some
>>5-men TBs were installed and some 4-men TBs were missing.
>>
>>So it's not an excuse for Tiger either.
>
>I misunderstood therefore and stand corrected.
>
>>>- The tournament's biggest purpose (unplanned) IMHO has been to show the
>>>strength of new settings for CM8000 showing it to be an engine of the highest
>>>quality suffering from less than optimal default settings.
>>
>>
>>I don't really see less than optimal settings. It's not an excuse for Tiger
>>either.
>
>No, not Tiger, but Chessmaster 8000. It had very poor results with the default
>settings and many complained that this newer version was in fact weaker than
>previous ones. Yet a number of new settings for CM have been used with very
>interesting results, and as is the case here, even much better! Over in CSS they
>have been having a CSS-Masters tournament with numerous engines including Tiger,
>Fritz 7, etc. participating. The two finalists are.... two different settings of
>CM8000. :-)
>
>>If you consider that the programs are handicapped because the time controls are
>>faster than 40/120, that one Gigabyte of hash table is not available or that
>>permanent brain is off, then what would you say about Chess Tiger for Palm??? :)
>
>I think that Chess Tiger for Palm would lose to CM8000 on my Athlon 1 GHz.
>
> Albert
Statistics are against me here. :)
>
>
>
>P.S. :-P
Naturally: ;)
Christophe
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