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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 14 is 100 points WEAKER than TheKing ??

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:44:09 02/19/02

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On February 19, 2002 at 05:53:41, Jarkko Pesonen wrote:

>On February 18, 2002 at 14:48:50, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:42:17, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:25:05, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>
>>>>Chess Tiger 14 is 100 points WEAKER than TheKing ??
>>>
>>>Keep in mind a few things:
>>>
>>>- The engines are playing with ponder OFF, which although ideal for a single
>>>machine, can seriously affect the overall result.
>>>- The performance is for this event only and with varying time controls, so it
>>>can easily be the reverse in a next event.
>>>- The programs are only using 4 piece TBs. Christophe has already said that he
>>>thought Tiger's performance (he was commenting the SSDF when saying this) could
>>>be affected by the use of incomplete TBs.
>>>- The tournament's biggest purpose (unplanned) IMHO has been to show the
>>>strength of new settings for CM8000 showing it to be an engine of the highest
>>>quality suffering from less than optimal default settings.
>>>
>>>Still, I must admit to finding it fascinating.
>>>
>>>                                        Albert
>>
>>Your missing a few other;
>>The relative few number of games.
>>The large + -  of those ratings caused by the relative few number of games.
>>
>>Sarah.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On February 18, 2002 at 11:38:43, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Program           Score    %    Elo
>>>>>
>>>>>1 TheKing312X    43.0/70  61.4  2467
>>>>>2 Fritz7002      39.5/70  56.4  2437
>>>>>3 Junior7        35.5/70  50.7  2404
>>>>>4 ChessTiger14   31.0/70  44.3  2367
>>>>>5 Hiarcs732      31.0/70  44.3  2367
>>>>>6 Shredder6      30.0/70  42.9  2358
>
>At the moment error bars are about +- 60-80 ELO points.
>Can anyone say how many would be needed to reduce errors
>further smaller to 40, 20 ,10 ,1  ELO points?

if 70 games are needed for 80 elo then simple math says that
280=70*(80/40)^2 games are needed for 40 elo
1120=70*(80/20)^2 games are needed for 20 elo
4480=70*(80/10)^2 games are needed for 10 elo
448000=70*80^2 games are needed for 1 elo.

Uri



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