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Subject: Re: Van Wely - Century contd. VW is winning

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:45:08 02/20/02

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On February 20, 2002 at 12:18:56, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 20, 2002 at 12:10:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:00:12, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On February 20, 2002 at 11:29:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't understand the king safety evaluation here myself.  All Crafty will
>>>>consider for black is Nxe5.  Handling this kind of position is critical when
>>>>playing on ICC for example...  "Thou shalt not attack thyself..."
>>>
>>>All Crafty will ever think is 'thou shalt not attack..." :)
>>>
>>>  int king_safety_asymmetry =                  -40;
>>>
>>>Horrors!
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>
>>Whatever it takes to survive.  Better to defend and win than to attack
>>and lose...  which is _very_ common against a few particular players on
>>ICC.
>>
>>Why open up both yourself _and_ your opponent and hope _you_ get the attack
>>going first?  Humans are _better_ at analyzing such positions than any computer
>>program around.  Playing right into their strength is incredibly dangerous...
>
>Playing tournament time control game is not the same as playing in ICC and I
>guess that van wely could try a different strategy against Crafty.

Why would you think that?  Crafty plays _plenty_ of long games on ICC, and
those are the games I generally use to adjust things, _not_ the more numerous
blitz games that happen.  I generally ignore those unless I see some sort of
long-term trend taking shape...




>
>Van wely plays against the opponent so it is natural that he is going to play
>for positions that Rebel does not know to play and not for positions that other
>programs do not know to play.

I don't agree.  I don't think he knows a lot about Rebel 4.  He is just playing
positions that computers in general don't understand.  I have played him many
games on ICC as have others.  He has a good idea of what computers can and can't
do, in general.  And, in general, _all_ have the same basic weaknesses...  Some
moreso than others of course.




>
>Uri



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