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Subject: Re: VAN Wely wins - Terrible, Tragic Setback For Ed.

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 11:28:37 02/20/02

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On February 20, 2002 at 14:04:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 20, 2002 at 13:56:37, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On February 20, 2002 at 13:33:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:54:49, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:23:45, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:07:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>What is "terrible and tragic" here?  Is the hyperbole already out of
>>>>>>control?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>
>>>>>Being English, I do not overstate lightly.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Terrible" refers to the apparent ease with which LVW was able to progress after
>>>>>move 16 (granted I could not have done it myself). No fight - just gentle
>>>>>capitulation.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tragic" refers to the fact that, after yesterday, Ed was in a position to
>>>>>become the first programmer to beat a super GM with a single processor due to
>>>>>having a program with excellent positional play. This afternoon, this dream lies
>>>>>in tatters - with only the prospect of further humiliation from LVW to come.
>>>>>
>>>>>Credit where credit's due though - it was valiantly brave of Ed to have a go at
>>>>>this.
>>>>>
>>>>>-g
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]4b3/8/4p1k1/1pKpPpP1/1Pp2P2/2P1P3/4B3/8 b - - 0 48
>>>>It is not over yet.I still believe Van Wely will lose.
>>>
>>>
>>>This game?  Black is hopelessly lost even against a 1500 player...
>>
>>
>>I think he means the Match Bob....but you know that right;-)
>>
>>Well ALI .....Opps....it's not over, but you really have no respect for
>>SuperGrandMasters!
>>
>>Terry
>
>
>I assumed he meant the game, because there was a diagram at the end.
>
>If I was wrong...  I was just wrong.  :)
>
>And lots of folks here have no respect for the super-GM players.  For
>reasons that are totally lost on me.


Myself included, am often mystified by the perception of many here who are quick
to announce...see see Fritz won or Tiger etc. and hate debating the GM vs
Computer issue.

Yes a top programme can often play like a GM, but when the GM and yes even
players like myself find weaknesses the programme then drops many rating points,
even classes!

Terry



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