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Subject: Re: --24hr/game-- | Game 1| Shredder 6 vs Fritz7b -- 0-1

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:40:57 02/20/02

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On February 20, 2002 at 14:52:33, pavel wrote:

>
>
>Shredder 6 (2500) - Fritz 7 (2500) [E04]
>Best, 720'/100+0'/0+0'0 Home (1), 19.02.2002
>
>W=18.9 ply; 279kN/s; 3,785,704 TBAs
>B=18.9 ply; 533kN/s; 7,575 TBAs
> 1.Ng1-f3 d7-d5 2.g2-g3 c7-c5 3.Bf1-g2 Ng8-f6 4.0-0 Nb8-c6 5.d2-d4 e7-e6 6.c2-c4
>d5xc4 7.Nf3-e5 Bc8-d7 8.Nb1-a3 c5xd4 9.Na3xc4 Bf8-c5 10.Bc1-f4 Both last book
>move  0.09/15  24:41  10...0-0  0.03/13  7:11  11.Ra1-c1  -0.05/14  12:03
>Ra8-c8  -0.03/14  16:57  12.Ne5-d3  -0.04/14  7:58  Bc5-e7  -0.13/15  10:23
>13.Nc4-d6  -0.16/14  9:34  Be7xd6  -0.13/16  13:01  14.Bf4xd6  -0.19/15  3:46
>Rf8-e8  -0.16/15  11:47  15.Qd1-b3 (Nd3-e5)  -0.15/15  8:15  15...Nc6-a5
>-0.34/15  10:50  16.Rc1xc8  -0.27/15  6:14  Bd7xc8  -0.34/16  2:54  17.Qb3-b4
>-0.21/14  4:25  Nf6-d5  -0.31/16  8:13  18.Qb4-a4  -0.27/15  9:08  Na5-c6
>(a7-a6)  -0.31/15  7:07  19.Qa4-a3  -0.23/11  33  Qd8-g5 (f7-f6)  -0.34/14  7:22
> 20.Bg2-f3 (Rf1-c1)  -0.13/14  7:55  20...a7-a6 (Qg5-f5)  -0.31/16  14:05
>21.Rf1-c1  -0.04/14  6:39  Re8-d8 (Qg5-f5)  -0.31/15  11:07  22.Nd3-f4 (h2-h4)
>0.00/14  6:32  22...e6-e5 (Rd8-e8)  -0.41/15  8:10  23.h2-h4  -0.11/15  15:59
>Qg5-f6  -0.47/16  9:07  24.Nf4xd5  0.03/16  7:45  Qf6xd6  -0.53/17  5:03
>25.Qa3xd6  0.10/17  6:55  Rd8xd6  -0.47/16  2:19  26.Rc1xc6 (Nd5-b4)  -0.24/16
>8:01  26...Rd6xc6  -0.63/18  3:13  27.Nd5-e7+  -0.41/21  8:39  Kg8-f8  -0.66/20
>7:18  28.Ne7xc6  -0.38/22  6:35  b7xc6  -0.66/18  3:39  29.Bf3xc6  -0.38/19
>7:21  Kf8-e7  -0.63/18  9:13  30.b2-b4  -0.09/18  8:25  Ke7-d6  -0.72/18  8:40
>31.Bc6-a4 (Bc6-a8)  -0.24/18  14:32  31...e5-e4 (f7-f5)  -0.75/17  6:59
>32.Kg1-f1  -0.23/17  6:36  h7-h6  -0.75/17  9:10  33.Kf1-e1  -0.24/18  8:00
>g7-g5 (Bc8-d7)  -0.72/18  10:59  34.b4-b5 (a2-a3)  -0.29/18  9:53  34...g5xh4
>(Bc8-d7)  -1.06/19  7:43  35.g3xh4  -0.39/20  6:10  Bc8-d7  -0.91/20  8:08
>36.Ba4-c2  -1.02/21  8:25  a6xb5  -0.88/20  7:49  37.Bc2xe4  -1.13/24  28:31
>Kd6-e5  -1.03/19  5:36  38.Be4-d3 (Be4-c2)  -0.64/21  8:52  38...Ke5-f4
>-0.88/20  8:14  39.a2-a3 (Ke1-d2)  -0.75/21  5:33  39...Kf4-g4  -1.03/20  5:28
>40.Bd3-e4  -1.07/22  9:26  Kg4xh4  -1.00/20  6:25  41.Be4-d5  -1.31/22  11:07
>Bd7-e6  -1.28/21  9:46  42.Bd5-c6  -1.19/21  26  Be6-c4  -1.44/21  11:31
>43.Ke1-d2  -1.88/21  11:45  h6-h5  -1.63/20  10:44  44.e2-e3  -1.89/21  9:58
>d4-d3 (d4xe3+)  -1.81/20  6:53  45.Bc6-d7 (a3-a4)  -1.67/21  9:46  45...Kh4-g5
>-1.50/21  9:50  46.Bd7-h3  -2.39/21  12:20  Bc4-e6 (f7-f5)  -1.63/20  7:58
>47.Bh3-g2  -2.07/18  20  h5-h4 (Be6-f5)  -2.53/20  7:08  48.Bg2-c6 (Kd2xd3)
>-3.21/20  35:42  48...Be6-c4 (h4-h3)  -2.59/19  3:28  49.Bc6-d7 (Bc6-g2)
>-3.25/19  7:27  49...f7-f5  -3.22/20  3:50  50.f2-f4+ (Bd7-c6)  -6.00/20  14:36
>50...Kg5-f6  -4.53/20  2:07  51.e3-e4  -7.31/20  7:44  f5xe4  -5.16/19  1:30
>52.Bd7-h3  -9.98/21  28:11  Bc4-e6  -5.78/21  1:50  53.f4-f5  -9.57/20  6:05
>Be6xf5 -9.94/20  1:56  0-1
>
>================================================================================
>
>In PGN
>
>[Event "Best, 720'/100+0'/0+0'0"]
>[Site "Home"]
>[Date "2002.02.19"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Shredder 6"]
>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "E04"]
>[WhiteElo "2500"]
>[BlackElo "2500"]
>[PlyCount "106"]
>
>{W=18.9 ply; 279kN/s; 3,785,704 TBAs
>B=18.9 ply; 533kN/s; 7,575 TBAs
>} 1. Nf3
>{0} 1... d5 {0} 2. g3 {0} 2... c5 {0} 3. Bg2 {0} 3... Nf6 {0} 4. O-O {0} 4...
>Nc6 {0} 5. d4 {0} 5... e6 {0} 6. c4 {0} 6... dxc4 {0} 7. Ne5 {0} 7... Bd7 {0}
>8. Na3 {0} 8... cxd4 {0} 9. Naxc4 {0} 9... Bc5 {0} 10. Bf4 {
>Both last book move 0.09/15 1482} 10... O-O {0.03/13 432} 11. Rc1 {-0.05/14 724
>} 11... Rc8 {-0.03/14 1018} 12. Nd3 {-0.04/14 478} 12... Be7 {-0.13/15 623} 13.
>Nd6 {-0.16/14 574} 13... Bxd6 {-0.13/16 782} 14. Bxd6 {-0.19/15 227} 14... Re8
>{-0.16/15 707} 15. Qb3 {(Nd3-e5) -0.15/15 496} 15... Na5 {-0.34/15 651} 16.
>Rxc8 {-0.27/15 375} 16... Bxc8 {-0.34/16 175} 17. Qb4 {-0.21/14 265} 17... Nd5
>{-0.31/16 493} 18. Qa4 {-0.27/15 549} 18... Nc6 {(a7-a6) -0.31/15 427} 19. Qa3
>{-0.23/11 34} 19... Qg5 {(f7-f6) -0.34/14 442} 20. Bf3 {(Rf1-c1) -0.13/14 476}
>20... a6 {(Qg5-f5) -0.31/16 845} 21. Rc1 {-0.04/14 399} 21... Rd8 {
>(Qg5-f5) -0.31/15 668} 22. Nf4 {(h2-h4) 0.00/14 392} 22... e5 {
>(Rd8-e8) -0.41/15 491} 23. h4 {-0.11/15 960} 23... Qf6 {-0.47/16 548} 24. Nxd5
>{0.03/16 466} 24... Qxd6 {-0.53/17 303} 25. Qxd6 {0.10/17 416} 25... Rxd6 {
>-0.47/16 140} 26. Rxc6 {(Nd5-b4) -0.24/16 481} 26... Rxc6 {-0.63/18 194} 27.
>Ne7+ {-0.41/21 520} 27... Kf8 {-0.66/20 439} 28. Nxc6 {-0.38/22 395} 28... bxc6
>{-0.66/18 219} 29. Bxc6 {-0.38/19 441} 29... Ke7 {-0.63/18 553} 30. b4 {
>-0.09/18 506} 30... Kd6 {-0.72/18 521} 31. Ba4 {(Bc6-a8) -0.24/18 872} 31... e4
>{(f7-f5) -0.75/17 420} 32. Kf1 {-0.23/17 397} 32... h6 {-0.75/17 551} 33. Ke1 {
>-0.24/18 480} 33... g5 {(Bc8-d7) -0.72/18 660} 34. b5 {(a2-a3) -0.29/18 594}
>34... gxh4 {(Bc8-d7) -1.06/19 463} 35. gxh4 {-0.39/20 371} 35... Bd7 {
>-0.91/20 489} 36. Bc2 {-1.02/21 505} 36... axb5 {-0.88/20 470} 37. Bxe4 {
>-1.13/24 1711} 37... Ke5 {-1.03/19 336} 38. Bd3 {(Be4-c2) -0.64/21 532} 38...
>Kf4 {-0.88/20 494} 39. a3 {(Ke1-d2) -0.75/21 333} 39... Kg4 {-1.03/20 329} 40.
>Be4 {-1.07/22 567} 40... Kxh4 {-1.00/20 386} 41. Bd5 {-1.31/22 667} 41... Be6 {
>-1.28/21 587} 42. Bc6 {-1.19/21 27} 42... Bc4 {-1.44/21 691} 43. Kd2 {
>-1.88/21 706} 43... h5 {-1.63/20 645} 44. e3 {-1.89/21 598} 44... d3 {
>(d4xe3+) -1.81/20 413} 45. Bd7 {(a3-a4) -1.67/21 587} 45... Kg5 {-1.50/21 591}
>46. Bh3 {-2.39/21 740} 46... Be6 {(f7-f5) -1.63/20 479} 47. Bg2 {-2.07/18 21}
>47... h4 {(Be6-f5) -2.53/20 428} 48. Bc6 {(Kd2xd3) -3.21/20 2143} 48... Bc4 {
>(h4-h3) -2.59/19 209} 49. Bd7 {(Bc6-g2) -3.25/19 447} 49... f5 {-3.22/20 230}
>50. f4+ {(Bd7-c6) -6.00/20 876} 50... Kf6 {-4.53/20 127} 51. e4 {-7.31/20 464}
>51... fxe4 {-5.16/19 90} 52. Bh3 {-9.98/21 1692} 52... Be6 {-5.78/21 111} 53.
>f5 {-9.57/20 365} 53... Bxf5 {-9.94/20 116} 0-1
>
>================================================================================
>
>comments: The game ended with more than 10 hours left in the clock.
>
>cheers,
>pavs

Time control of 720/100 is simply not understood by the stupid chess programs
thanks to bad time managemant

They translate it to 7.2 minutes per move.

usually games are not close to 100 moves.

If you want the programs to understand the time control you should choose in the
options blitz time control and 720 minutes/game

It is possible in shredder5.32 and I guess that it is also possible with
shredder6 but I also read that shredder is not good at 3 hours per game and it
is better to give it 2 hours/40 moves+1 hour/rest of the game so by the same
logic you should use 8 hours/40 moves+4 hours/rest of the game if you want
shredder to use the time logically.

Uri



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