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Subject: Re: --24hr/game-- | Game 1| Shredder 6 vs Fritz7b -- 0-1

Author: pavel

Date: 12:49:50 02/20/02

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On February 20, 2002 at 15:40:57, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 20, 2002 at 14:52:33, pavel wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Shredder 6 (2500) - Fritz 7 (2500) [E04]
>>Best, 720'/100+0'/0+0'0 Home (1), 19.02.2002
>>
>>W=18.9 ply; 279kN/s; 3,785,704 TBAs
>>B=18.9 ply; 533kN/s; 7,575 TBAs
>> 1.Ng1-f3 d7-d5 2.g2-g3 c7-c5 3.Bf1-g2 Ng8-f6 4.0-0 Nb8-c6 5.d2-d4 e7-e6 6.c2-c4
>>d5xc4 7.Nf3-e5 Bc8-d7 8.Nb1-a3 c5xd4 9.Na3xc4 Bf8-c5 10.Bc1-f4 Both last book
>>move  0.09/15  24:41  10...0-0  0.03/13  7:11  11.Ra1-c1  -0.05/14  12:03
>>Ra8-c8  -0.03/14  16:57  12.Ne5-d3  -0.04/14  7:58  Bc5-e7  -0.13/15  10:23
>>13.Nc4-d6  -0.16/14  9:34  Be7xd6  -0.13/16  13:01  14.Bf4xd6  -0.19/15  3:46
>>Rf8-e8  -0.16/15  11:47  15.Qd1-b3 (Nd3-e5)  -0.15/15  8:15  15...Nc6-a5
>>-0.34/15  10:50  16.Rc1xc8  -0.27/15  6:14  Bd7xc8  -0.34/16  2:54  17.Qb3-b4
>>-0.21/14  4:25  Nf6-d5  -0.31/16  8:13  18.Qb4-a4  -0.27/15  9:08  Na5-c6
>>(a7-a6)  -0.31/15  7:07  19.Qa4-a3  -0.23/11  33  Qd8-g5 (f7-f6)  -0.34/14  7:22
>> 20.Bg2-f3 (Rf1-c1)  -0.13/14  7:55  20...a7-a6 (Qg5-f5)  -0.31/16  14:05
>>21.Rf1-c1  -0.04/14  6:39  Re8-d8 (Qg5-f5)  -0.31/15  11:07  22.Nd3-f4 (h2-h4)
>>0.00/14  6:32  22...e6-e5 (Rd8-e8)  -0.41/15  8:10  23.h2-h4  -0.11/15  15:59
>>Qg5-f6  -0.47/16  9:07  24.Nf4xd5  0.03/16  7:45  Qf6xd6  -0.53/17  5:03
>>25.Qa3xd6  0.10/17  6:55  Rd8xd6  -0.47/16  2:19  26.Rc1xc6 (Nd5-b4)  -0.24/16
>>8:01  26...Rd6xc6  -0.63/18  3:13  27.Nd5-e7+  -0.41/21  8:39  Kg8-f8  -0.66/20
>>7:18  28.Ne7xc6  -0.38/22  6:35  b7xc6  -0.66/18  3:39  29.Bf3xc6  -0.38/19
>>7:21  Kf8-e7  -0.63/18  9:13  30.b2-b4  -0.09/18  8:25  Ke7-d6  -0.72/18  8:40
>>31.Bc6-a4 (Bc6-a8)  -0.24/18  14:32  31...e5-e4 (f7-f5)  -0.75/17  6:59
>>32.Kg1-f1  -0.23/17  6:36  h7-h6  -0.75/17  9:10  33.Kf1-e1  -0.24/18  8:00
>>g7-g5 (Bc8-d7)  -0.72/18  10:59  34.b4-b5 (a2-a3)  -0.29/18  9:53  34...g5xh4
>>(Bc8-d7)  -1.06/19  7:43  35.g3xh4  -0.39/20  6:10  Bc8-d7  -0.91/20  8:08
>>36.Ba4-c2  -1.02/21  8:25  a6xb5  -0.88/20  7:49  37.Bc2xe4  -1.13/24  28:31
>>Kd6-e5  -1.03/19  5:36  38.Be4-d3 (Be4-c2)  -0.64/21  8:52  38...Ke5-f4
>>-0.88/20  8:14  39.a2-a3 (Ke1-d2)  -0.75/21  5:33  39...Kf4-g4  -1.03/20  5:28
>>40.Bd3-e4  -1.07/22  9:26  Kg4xh4  -1.00/20  6:25  41.Be4-d5  -1.31/22  11:07
>>Bd7-e6  -1.28/21  9:46  42.Bd5-c6  -1.19/21  26  Be6-c4  -1.44/21  11:31
>>43.Ke1-d2  -1.88/21  11:45  h6-h5  -1.63/20  10:44  44.e2-e3  -1.89/21  9:58
>>d4-d3 (d4xe3+)  -1.81/20  6:53  45.Bc6-d7 (a3-a4)  -1.67/21  9:46  45...Kh4-g5
>>-1.50/21  9:50  46.Bd7-h3  -2.39/21  12:20  Bc4-e6 (f7-f5)  -1.63/20  7:58
>>47.Bh3-g2  -2.07/18  20  h5-h4 (Be6-f5)  -2.53/20  7:08  48.Bg2-c6 (Kd2xd3)
>>-3.21/20  35:42  48...Be6-c4 (h4-h3)  -2.59/19  3:28  49.Bc6-d7 (Bc6-g2)
>>-3.25/19  7:27  49...f7-f5  -3.22/20  3:50  50.f2-f4+ (Bd7-c6)  -6.00/20  14:36
>>50...Kg5-f6  -4.53/20  2:07  51.e3-e4  -7.31/20  7:44  f5xe4  -5.16/19  1:30
>>52.Bd7-h3  -9.98/21  28:11  Bc4-e6  -5.78/21  1:50  53.f4-f5  -9.57/20  6:05
>>Be6xf5 -9.94/20  1:56  0-1
>>
>>================================================================================
>>
>>In PGN
>>
>>[Event "Best, 720'/100+0'/0+0'0"]
>>[Site "Home"]
>>[Date "2002.02.19"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "Shredder 6"]
>>[Black "Fritz 7"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "E04"]
>>[WhiteElo "2500"]
>>[BlackElo "2500"]
>>[PlyCount "106"]
>>
>>{W=18.9 ply; 279kN/s; 3,785,704 TBAs
>>B=18.9 ply; 533kN/s; 7,575 TBAs
>>} 1. Nf3
>>{0} 1... d5 {0} 2. g3 {0} 2... c5 {0} 3. Bg2 {0} 3... Nf6 {0} 4. O-O {0} 4...
>>Nc6 {0} 5. d4 {0} 5... e6 {0} 6. c4 {0} 6... dxc4 {0} 7. Ne5 {0} 7... Bd7 {0}
>>8. Na3 {0} 8... cxd4 {0} 9. Naxc4 {0} 9... Bc5 {0} 10. Bf4 {
>>Both last book move 0.09/15 1482} 10... O-O {0.03/13 432} 11. Rc1 {-0.05/14 724
>>} 11... Rc8 {-0.03/14 1018} 12. Nd3 {-0.04/14 478} 12... Be7 {-0.13/15 623} 13.
>>Nd6 {-0.16/14 574} 13... Bxd6 {-0.13/16 782} 14. Bxd6 {-0.19/15 227} 14... Re8
>>{-0.16/15 707} 15. Qb3 {(Nd3-e5) -0.15/15 496} 15... Na5 {-0.34/15 651} 16.
>>Rxc8 {-0.27/15 375} 16... Bxc8 {-0.34/16 175} 17. Qb4 {-0.21/14 265} 17... Nd5
>>{-0.31/16 493} 18. Qa4 {-0.27/15 549} 18... Nc6 {(a7-a6) -0.31/15 427} 19. Qa3
>>{-0.23/11 34} 19... Qg5 {(f7-f6) -0.34/14 442} 20. Bf3 {(Rf1-c1) -0.13/14 476}
>>20... a6 {(Qg5-f5) -0.31/16 845} 21. Rc1 {-0.04/14 399} 21... Rd8 {
>>(Qg5-f5) -0.31/15 668} 22. Nf4 {(h2-h4) 0.00/14 392} 22... e5 {
>>(Rd8-e8) -0.41/15 491} 23. h4 {-0.11/15 960} 23... Qf6 {-0.47/16 548} 24. Nxd5
>>{0.03/16 466} 24... Qxd6 {-0.53/17 303} 25. Qxd6 {0.10/17 416} 25... Rxd6 {
>>-0.47/16 140} 26. Rxc6 {(Nd5-b4) -0.24/16 481} 26... Rxc6 {-0.63/18 194} 27.
>>Ne7+ {-0.41/21 520} 27... Kf8 {-0.66/20 439} 28. Nxc6 {-0.38/22 395} 28... bxc6
>>{-0.66/18 219} 29. Bxc6 {-0.38/19 441} 29... Ke7 {-0.63/18 553} 30. b4 {
>>-0.09/18 506} 30... Kd6 {-0.72/18 521} 31. Ba4 {(Bc6-a8) -0.24/18 872} 31... e4
>>{(f7-f5) -0.75/17 420} 32. Kf1 {-0.23/17 397} 32... h6 {-0.75/17 551} 33. Ke1 {
>>-0.24/18 480} 33... g5 {(Bc8-d7) -0.72/18 660} 34. b5 {(a2-a3) -0.29/18 594}
>>34... gxh4 {(Bc8-d7) -1.06/19 463} 35. gxh4 {-0.39/20 371} 35... Bd7 {
>>-0.91/20 489} 36. Bc2 {-1.02/21 505} 36... axb5 {-0.88/20 470} 37. Bxe4 {
>>-1.13/24 1711} 37... Ke5 {-1.03/19 336} 38. Bd3 {(Be4-c2) -0.64/21 532} 38...
>>Kf4 {-0.88/20 494} 39. a3 {(Ke1-d2) -0.75/21 333} 39... Kg4 {-1.03/20 329} 40.
>>Be4 {-1.07/22 567} 40... Kxh4 {-1.00/20 386} 41. Bd5 {-1.31/22 667} 41... Be6 {
>>-1.28/21 587} 42. Bc6 {-1.19/21 27} 42... Bc4 {-1.44/21 691} 43. Kd2 {
>>-1.88/21 706} 43... h5 {-1.63/20 645} 44. e3 {-1.89/21 598} 44... d3 {
>>(d4xe3+) -1.81/20 413} 45. Bd7 {(a3-a4) -1.67/21 587} 45... Kg5 {-1.50/21 591}
>>46. Bh3 {-2.39/21 740} 46... Be6 {(f7-f5) -1.63/20 479} 47. Bg2 {-2.07/18 21}
>>47... h4 {(Be6-f5) -2.53/20 428} 48. Bc6 {(Kd2xd3) -3.21/20 2143} 48... Bc4 {
>>(h4-h3) -2.59/19 209} 49. Bd7 {(Bc6-g2) -3.25/19 447} 49... f5 {-3.22/20 230}
>>50. f4+ {(Bd7-c6) -6.00/20 876} 50... Kf6 {-4.53/20 127} 51. e4 {-7.31/20 464}
>>51... fxe4 {-5.16/19 90} 52. Bh3 {-9.98/21 1692} 52... Be6 {-5.78/21 111} 53.
>>f5 {-9.57/20 365} 53... Bxf5 {-9.94/20 116} 0-1
>>
>>================================================================================
>>
>>comments: The game ended with more than 10 hours left in the clock.
>>
>>cheers,
>>pavs
>
>Time control of 720/100 is simply not understood by the stupid chess programs
>thanks to bad time managemant
>
>They translate it to 7.2 minutes per move.
>
>usually games are not close to 100 moves.
>
>If you want the programs to understand the time control you should choose in the
>options blitz time control and 720 minutes/game
>
>It is possible in shredder5.32 and I guess that it is also possible with
>shredder6 but I also read that shredder is not good at 3 hours per game and it
>is better to give it 2 hours/40 moves+1 hour/rest of the game so by the same
>logic you should use 8 hours/40 moves+4 hours/rest of the game if you want
>shredder to use the time logically.
>
>Uri


Yes, you are right.
Even before reading your post, and just after the end of the first game, i
realized that I have not set up the time the best way, and started the next game
with 720min/game under blitz option, as you suggested.

I don't think, it really effected the game much, if any, shredder wasn't
crippled to 7.2 minutes per move, in some moves it took way over 7 mins.

Good observation, thanks for the tips.

pavs ;)



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