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Subject: Re: VAN Wely wins - Terrible, Tragic Setback For Ed.

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 13:32:20 02/20/02

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On February 20, 2002 at 16:00:07, Louis Fagliano wrote:

>On February 20, 2002 at 14:04:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 20, 2002 at 13:56:37, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On February 20, 2002 at 13:33:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:54:49, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:23:45, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 20, 2002 at 12:07:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What is "terrible and tragic" here?  Is the hyperbole already out of
>>>>>>>control?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Being English, I do not overstate lightly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Terrible" refers to the apparent ease with which LVW was able to progress after
>>>>>>move 16 (granted I could not have done it myself). No fight - just gentle
>>>>>>capitulation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Tragic" refers to the fact that, after yesterday, Ed was in a position to
>>>>>>become the first programmer to beat a super GM with a single processor due to
>>>>>>having a program with excellent positional play. This afternoon, this dream lies
>>>>>>in tatters - with only the prospect of further humiliation from LVW to come.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Credit where credit's due though - it was valiantly brave of Ed to have a go at
>>>>>>this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-g
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[D]4b3/8/4p1k1/1pKpPpP1/1Pp2P2/2P1P3/4B3/8 b - - 0 48
>>>>>It is not over yet.I still believe Van Wely will lose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This game?  Black is hopelessly lost even against a 1500 player...
>>>
>>>
>>>I think he means the Match Bob....but you know that right;-)
>>>
>>>Well ALI .....Opps....it's not over, but you really have no respect for
>>>SuperGrandMasters!
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>I assumed he meant the game, because there was a diagram at the end.
>>
>>If I was wrong...  I was just wrong.  :)
>>
>>And lots of folks here have no respect for the super-GM players.  For
>>reasons that are totally lost on me.
>
>It shouldn't be too hard to figure out why.  Super-GM players represent what
>computer chess enthusiasts hope their brainchild will beat someday.  So they are
>the "enemy" and it's boo, hiss, and hate.

LOL! This isn't the WWF!

I certainly hope this isn't the case, and for the programmers it would be
a great honor to emulate a GM >2700 let alone defeat consistantly!

Terry



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