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Subject: Re: A position for dreamer!

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 18:53:49 02/20/02

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On February 20, 2002 at 19:08:43, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:

>Rebel Century 4.0 tells me +0.80 to +1.00 but shuffles like all the others,
>including Gandalf 5.1 who is(like Chessmaster) closer to the "truth":
>
>00:00:00.6	0,57	5	3287	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Kh8 Qg6
>00:00:00.9	0,60	6	6048	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Kh8 Qg6 Qe7
>00:00:00.4	0,60	7	10909	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Kh8 Qg6 Qe7 Ke3
>00:00:00.6	0,48	8	23009	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Ke3 Qf7 Kd3
>00:00:00.2	0,48	8	33486	Kg2
>00:00:00.8	0,48	8	37521	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Ke3 Qf7 Kd3
>00:00:00.6	0,41	9	51357	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Ke2 Qf7 Ke3 Ke7
>00:00:00.8	0,41	10	86704	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Ke2 Qf7 Ke3 Ke7 Kd3
>00:00:01.1	0,48	11	135764	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Ke2 Qf7 Qh6+ Ke7 Ng7 Qg8 Ne6
>00:00:01.8	0,48	12	225416	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Kg2 Qf7 Kf3
>00:00:01.5	0,51	13	353339	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Kg1 Qf7 Kg2 Qe7 Qg6+
>Kf8
>00:00:02.1	0,51	14	560701	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Kg2 Qf7 Kg1 Qe7 Qg6+
>Kf8 Kg2
>00:00:04.4	0,48	15	1148824	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Ke1 Qf7 Kd2 Qe7 Qg6+
>Kf8 Kd3 Qf7
>00:00:06.9	0,48	16	1897031	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Ke1 Qf7 Kd2 Qe7 Qg6+
>Kf8 Ke3 Qf7 Kd3
>00:01:01.0	0,54	17	14920419	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Ke1 Qf7 Kd1 Qe7 Kc2
>Qf7 Kd2 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8
>00:01:08.5	0,54	18	17144704	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Ke1 Qf7 Kd1 Qe7 Kc2
>Qf7 Kd2 Kh8 Qg6
>00:01:30.0	0,48	19	24192767	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Ke1 Qf7 Kd1 Qe7 Kc2
>Qf7 Kd2 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Ke3 Qf7
>00:02:23.8	0,48	20	38433454	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Ke1 Qf7 Kd2 Qe7 Kc2
>Qf7 Kc1 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Kc2 Qf7 Kd3
>00:04:51.7	0,44	21	74860120	Ke3 Qf7 Kd3 Qe7 Ke2 Qf7 Kf2 Qe7 Qg6+ Kf8 Kg3 Qf7
>Qh6+ Ke7 Ng7 Nf8 Qh8 Nd7 Ne6 Nf8 Kf3 Qe8 Ke3
>
>
>BTW for  a long time CM was the only program that let the evaluation drop to
>zero in such a situation for every move you came closer to the 50 move rule.
>
>Of course this is one with a beard, but CM adapted it's eval after each move
>until 0.00 at move 49 from here :):
>
>[D]2b3r1/4k3/2p1p1p1/rpPpPpPp/pP1P1P1P/P7/3K4/8 w - - 0 1
>
>
>J.
>
>(In one of my games against a handicapped Fritz 5.32 (at 1600) I came at this
>position:
>[D]8/8/8/1k3p1p/p2K1Pb1/P6p/7B/8 b - - 0 65
>
>IMO -and after long analysis- this is a draw, but every chess program sticks to
>a favourable evaluation for me.)

Well it appears to me, given just a little more work and even faster computers,
we'll see that 0.00 score in the near future!

Thanks Jeroen and Jim!



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