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Subject: Re: position after black's 44th move

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:17:22 02/22/02

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On February 22, 2002 at 10:59:40, Janosch Zwerensky wrote:

>[D]3r3k/5p1p/1p1P1P2/p7/P2RNKP1/1P6/2r5/8 w - - 0 45
>
>I think white has a forced win here:
>
>45. Rc4 Rxc4 (forced according to Chess tiger)
>46. bc: Kg8 (forced)
>47. Ke5 Kf8 (forced)
>48. Kd5 Ke8 (forced)
>49. Sf2 and Chess Tiger gives a +2 eval for white


Here is yace analysis of the after Rc4 Rxc4 bxc4
New game - Junior 7
[D]3r3k/5p1p/1p1P1P2/p7/P1P1NKP1/8/8/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

46...Rxd6 47.Nxd6
  +-  (4.17)   Depth: 1   00:00:09
46...h5 47.gxh5
  +-  (1.92)   Depth: 1   00:00:09
46...Re8
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 1   00:00:09
46...Re8 47.d7 Rd8
  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 2   00:00:09
46...Rd7 47.c5
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 2   00:00:09
46...Rd7 47.g5
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 2   00:00:09
46...Kg8 47.Kf5
  ²  (0.58)   Depth: 2   00:00:09
46...Kg8 47.Kf5 Kf8
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 3   00:00:09
46...Kg8 47.Kf5 Rd7 48.g5
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 4   00:00:10
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Rd7 48.Ng5 h6
  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 5   00:00:10  3kN
46...Kg8 47.Kg5 Rd7 48.Kh6 Rd8 49.g5
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 6   00:00:13  7kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 Re8 49.d7 Rd8 50.Kd6
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 7   00:00:16  16kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 h6 49.c5 bxc5 50.Nxc5
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 8   00:00:22  40kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 Ke8 49.c5 bxc5 50.Nxc5 Rb8 51.g5
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 9   00:00:30  82kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 h6 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Re8+ 50.Kf5 Re1 51.d7 Rc1 52.d8Q+ Kh7
  ²  (0.61)   Depth: 10   00:00:38  189kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 h6 50.d7 Kg8 51.Kf5 Kf8 52.Kf4 Kg8 53.Ke5
Kf8 54.Kf5
  ²  (0.62)   Depth: 11   00:00:40  417kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 h6 50.d7 Kg8 51.Kf5 Kf8 52.Kf4 Kg8 53.Ke4
  ²  (0.62)   Depth: 12   00:00:40  662kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Re8+ 50.Kd5 Ra8 51.d7 Rd8 52.Kd4
  ²  (0.70)   Depth: 13   00:00:41  1197kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.d7+ Rxd7 51.Nxd7 Kxd7 52.Kd5 h6
53.Kc5 Ke6 54.Kb5 Kxf6 55.Kxa5
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 14   00:00:44  2270kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.Kd5 h6 51.Kc6 Rc8+ 52.Kb6 Rb8+
53.Kxa5 Ra8+ 54.Kb5 h5 55.gxh5 Kf8
  ±  (1.24)   Depth: 15   00:00:49  4750kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.Kd4
  ±  (1.24)   Depth: 15   00:00:50  5283kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.Kd4 Ra8 51.Kd5 Kd8 52.Kc6 Rc8+
53.Kb5 h6 54.Nd3 Kd7 55.Ne5+ Kxd6 56.Nxf7+ Ke6 57.Nxh6
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 16   00:00:57  8754kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.Kd5 Rb8 51.d7+ Kd8 52.Kc6 Rb4
53.Nb7+ Rxb7 54.Kxb7 Kxd7 55.Kb6 Ke6 56.Kxa5 Ke5 57.Kb5 Kf4 58.Kb6 Kxg4 59.a5
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 16   00:01:00  9749kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.Kd5 Kf8 51.d7 Re8
  ±  (1.18)   Depth: 17   00:01:14  16390kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.Kd5
  ±  (1.21)   Depth: 17   00:01:18  18420kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.d7+ Rxd7 51.Nxd7 Kxd7 52.Kd5 h6
53.Kc5 Ke6 54.Kb5 Kxf6 55.Kxa5 Ke5 56.Kb6 f5 57.gxf5 h5 58.a5
  +-  (1.41)   Depth: 18   00:01:57  36098kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.d7+ Rxd7 51.Nxd7 Kxd7 52.Kd5 h6
53.Kc5 Ke6 54.Kb5 Kxf6 55.Kxa5 Ke5 56.Kb6 f5 57.gxf5 h5
  +-  (1.41)   Depth: 19   00:03:32  76674kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.c5 bxc5 49.Nxc5 Ke8 50.d7+ Rxd7 51.Nxd7 Kxd7 52.Kd5 h6
53.Kc5 Ke6 54.Kb5 Kxf6 55.Kxa5 h5 56.gxh5 Kg5 57.Kb4 f5 58.Kc5 Kxh5 59.Kd4 f4
60.a5 f3 61.Ke3
  +-  (1.81)   Depth: 20   00:07:17  172139kN
46...Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 Ke8 49.c5 bxc5 50.Nxc5 h6 51.Kc6 Rc8+ 52.Kb6 Kd8
53.d7 Rb8+ 54.Kc6 Rb1 55.Nb7+ Rxb7 56.Kxb7 Kxd7 57.Kb6 Kd6 58.Kxa5 Kc5 59.Ka6
Kc4 60.Kb6 h5 61.gxh5 Kd4
  +-  (2.46)   Depth: 20   00:09:38  234427kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 22.02.2002)

I gave yace to go back in order to learn

Here is what yace said about move 45

New game - Junior 7
3r3k/5p1p/1p1P1P2/p7/P1R1NKP1/1P6/2r5/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:

45...Rxc4 46.bxc4 Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 Ke8 49.c5 bxc5 50.Nxc5 h6 51.d7+ Kf8
52.Kc6 Rb8
  +-  (2.46)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
45...Re2
  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
45...Re2 46.Rc7
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
45...Re2 46.Rc7 Re8
  ²  (0.48)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
45...Re2 46.Kf3 Rxe4 47.Rxe4 Rxd6
  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
45...Re2 46.d7 Rxe4+ 47.Rxe4 h5 48.gxh5 Re8
  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  6kN
45...Re2 46.d7 Re1 47.Rc8 Rf1+ 48.Ke5 Rg8 49.d8Q Rxd8 50.Rxd8#
  +-  (1.91)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  6kN
45...Rg2 46.d7 h5 47.Rc8 Rxg4+ 48.Ke5
  +-  (1.90)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  6kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc7 Kg8 47.Rb7 Re8
  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 5   00:00:00  6kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc6 Rg8 47.g5 Rb8 48.Rc7
  ±  (1.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  33kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc7 Rg8 47.g5 Rf8 48.Rb7 h5
  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  48kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc7 Rg8 47.g5 Rf8 48.Rb7 Kg8 49.Rxb6
  ±  (1.28)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  149kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc7 Rg8 47.g5 Rb2 48.Rxf7 Rxb3 49.Rb7 Rb4 50.f7 Rf8
  +-  (1.49)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  333kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc7 h6 47.Rxf7 Rb2 48.g5 hxg5+ 49.Nxg5 Rh2 50.d7 Rf2+ 51.Ke5 Re2+
52.Kd6 Rd2+ 53.Kc7 Rg8
  +-  (1.68)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  834kN
45...Rg2 46.Rc7 Rg1 47.Rxf7 Rg8 48.g5 Rb1 49.d7 Rxb3 50.Re7 b5 51.f7 Rf8
  +-  (1.76)   Depth: 11   00:00:07  2497kN
45...Rg2 46.d7 h5 47.Rc8 Rxg4+ 48.Ke5 Rgg8 49.Rxd8 Rxd8 50.Kd6 Kg8 51.Kc7 Rb8
52.d8Q+ Kh7
  +-  (2.16)   Depth: 12   00:00:12  4421kN
45...Rg2 46.d7 h5 47.Rc8 Rxg4+ 48.Ke5 Rgg8 49.Rxd8 Rxd8 50.Kd6 Ra8 51.d8B
  +-  (2.20)   Depth: 12   00:00:13  5305kN
45...Rg2 46.d7 h5 47.Rc8 Rxg4+ 48.Ke5 Rgg8 49.Rxd8 Rxd8 50.Kd6 Ra8 51.Kc7 Kg8
52.Nd6 Ra7+ 53.Nb7 Ra8 54.d8Q+
  +-  (2.31)   Depth: 13   00:00:18  7399kN
45...Rg2 46.d7 h5 47.Rc8 Rxg4+ 48.Ke5 Rgg8 49.Rxd8 Rxd8 50.Kd6 Kh7 51.Ke7 Rb8
52.d8Q Rxd8 53.Kxd8 h4
  +-  (2.32)   Depth: 14   00:00:56  21871kN
45...Rg2 46.d7 h5 47.Rc8 Rxg4+ 48.Ke5 Rgg8 49.Rxd8 Rxd8 50.Kd6 Kg8 51.Kc7 Rf8
52.Nd6 Kh8
  +-  (2.71)   Depth: 15   00:01:52  43289kN
45...Rxc4 46.bxc4 Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 Ke8 49.c5 bxc5 50.Nxc5 h6 51.d7+ Kf8
  +-  (2.46)   Depth: 15   00:01:53  44161kN
45...Rxc4 46.bxc4 Kg8 47.Ke5 Kf8 48.Kd5 Ke8 49.c5 bxc5 50.Nxc5 h6 51.d7+ Kf8
  +-  (2.46)   Depth: 16   00:02:05  48596kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 22.02.2002)

Yace is at depth 17 but of course there is no new information

It seems that black has no chance after 44...Rc2

Uri



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