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Subject: Re: My conversation with Hsu.......

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 09:26:02 02/25/02

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On February 25, 2002 at 11:35:02, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>
>I agree, but it seems the problem with playing on the Deep Blue level is
>kns. If we are getting 2000kns today, with the dual machines, then we will
>have to wait on hardware upgrades. Hyatt said that Deep Blue was getting
>200,000,000 nodes a second--we are only getting 2,000,000 nodes a second.
>Hardware will have to reach closer to this level to test todays search methods
>in comparison to Deep Blue's search methods. If this is true what Hyatt is
>saying, and I have no reason not to believe this, then I have learned my 3100
>mhz and 1000 megs ram, is very limited in being able to compare todays programs
>to the six game Deep Blue match with Kasparov. The more time I spend testing
>positions in this match, the more I dissagree with Uri. I feel if Uri had
>spent the time and money that I have in testing this match, then I dont think he
>would take such a stand comparing todays programs with Deep Blue.
>
>I have started over again with the six game Deep Blue match. I am using the
>following:
>
>Fritz7           1500mhz  512ram
>Chess Tiger 14   1000mhz  384ram
>Deep Shredder6   3100mhz  1000ram
>
>Starting with game one, I will run all three programs until a Deep Blue move
>is not played by any program. I will then give all three programs 24 hours to
>find the Deep Blue move. If none of the programs will play the Deep Blue move
>after 24 hours, I will move to the next move. This move will be noted.
>
>I wanted to use Century 4.0, but I have not learned all of the interface
>necessary to cut and paste, clipboard, save as, etc. with the windows-dos.
>
>I feel game one will go very fast, because I think most moves can be found in
>this game. It seems some settings were changed between game one and game two,
>because finding moves after game one became more difficult.
>
>Anyone have any advice on how to improve this project, please let me know.
>I will record: 1. moves not found 2. moves found after 30+ minute search
>3. which program found which moves. 4. Total time of analysis after each game.
>kburcham

200M was average.  It hit a billion nodes in some positions.

The people who make the claims that DB is not stronger than a top program on
todays top PC's, are the same ones who said it wasn't "much" better than their
program on a PC 5 years ago.



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