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Subject: Re: Where are the games claimed by Feng Husiang Hsu? (Link)

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 19:24:51 02/27/02

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On February 27, 2002 at 17:38:08, Chris Carson wrote:

>On February 27, 2002 at 17:34:30, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On February 27, 2002 at 17:03:08, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On February 27, 2002 at 16:00:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 27, 2002 at 15:19:12, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 27, 2002 at 12:34:58, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In the 1999 article in the IEEE journal;it was reported by Hsu that a single
>>>>>>chip version of Deep Blue won a 10 game match against the top 2 commercial
>>>>>>programs (of 1997) 10-0 ;and that Deep Blue Jr had a plus 2700 elo performance
>>>>>>against the GMs working on the project .Have these games ever been Published?
>>>>>>What were these 2 commercial programs?
>>>>>
>>>>>No the games were never published.  The name/version of the programs were never
>>>>>published. The HW the programs were running on was never published.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been a lot of talk on in this forum about this match and the results,
>>>>>but it is all speculation since the above facts have never been published.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>actually the _names_ of the programs were published.  And the hardware used
>>>>was published.  The games were not published for the games vs the micro
>>>>programs.  The games against the human grandmasters are certainly public
>>>>record as they were played at various public events and tournaments around the
>>>>world...  I don't personally have them, but I have seen the pgn versions around
>>>>somewhere.
>>>>
>>>>If you look back thru the CCC archives you will find information about the
>>>>DB(one chip) vs the micros.  More than one person asked them about it at the
>>>>various public presentations they made after the kasparov match, and then they
>>>>reported a summary here...
>>>
>>>I do not want to get into a debate on this topic.  If you will tell me where
>>>they (DB team) published, I would like to read the article.
>>>
>>>I am talking about information published by HSU or another member of the DB
>>>team, I do not consider a discussion in this forum by people (not on the DB
>>>team) to be valid.  If HSU or a member of the DB team discussed it here, then
>>>point me to that post, but it must be HSU or a DB team member.
>>>
>>>If you can point me to a published reference by HSU or a team member, that
>>>covers this information, that would be great!
>>
>>I posed the link a while back.  The topic is labelled.
>>
>>He used 1 DB chip (approx 180mhz) vs a 180mhz Pentium PC.
>>
>>I suggest you read the article.
>
>Thanks, I would like to read the article.  Could you post the link.

http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse841/papers/DeepBlue.pdf

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