Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:20:50 02/28/02
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On February 28, 2002 at 01:16:51, Derrick Ford wrote: >On February 27, 2002 at 23:35:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On February 27, 2002 at 17:03:08, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>On February 27, 2002 at 16:00:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On February 27, 2002 at 15:19:12, Chris Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 27, 2002 at 12:34:58, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In the 1999 article in the IEEE journal;it was reported by Hsu that a single >>>>>>chip version of Deep Blue won a 10 game match against the top 2 commercial >>>>>>programs (of 1997) 10-0 ;and that Deep Blue Jr had a plus 2700 elo performance >>>>>>against the GMs working on the project .Have these games ever been Published? >>>>>>What were these 2 commercial programs? >>>>> >>>>>No the games were never published. The name/version of the programs were never >>>>>published. The HW the programs were running on was never published. >>>>> >>>>>There has been a lot of talk on in this forum about this match and the results, >>>>>but it is all speculation since the above facts have never been published. >>>> >>>> >>>>actually the _names_ of the programs were published. And the hardware used >>>>was published. The games were not published for the games vs the micro >>>>programs. The games against the human grandmasters are certainly public >>>>record as they were played at various public events and tournaments around the >>>>world... I don't personally have them, but I have seen the pgn versions around >>>>somewhere. >>>> >>>>If you look back thru the CCC archives you will find information about the >>>>DB(one chip) vs the micros. More than one person asked them about it at the >>>>various public presentations they made after the kasparov match, and then they >>>>reported a summary here... >>> >>>I do not want to get into a debate on this topic. If you will tell me where >>>they (DB team) published, I would like to read the article. >>> >>>I am talking about information published by HSU or another member of the DB >>>team, I do not consider a discussion in this forum by people (not on the DB >>>team) to be valid. If HSU or a member of the DB team discussed it here, then >>>point me to that post, but it must be HSU or a DB team member. >>> >>>If you can point me to a published reference by HSU or a team member, that >>>covers this information, that would be great! >> >> >>Hsu hasn't posted here. However, several (including Bruce I believe) have >>attended talks he or Murray have given, and _they_ have reported on those >>talks here. >> >>If you choose not to believe what they posted, that's a decision you have to >>make, of course... > > > I choose not to believe, I think the entire ordeal is complete fiction, how >many grandmasters or programs do you know of that plays ten games straight >without any draws?? Try your favorite 386 program on a 386 vs your favorite PIII/PIV program on that hardware. 10-0 would be quite easy to believe.
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