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Subject: Re: Where are the games claimed by Feng Husiang Hsu?

Author: José Antônio Fabiano Mendes

Date: 08:38:16 02/28/02

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On February 27, 2002 at 23:35:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 27, 2002 at 17:03:08, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On February 27, 2002 at 16:00:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 27, 2002 at 15:19:12, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 27, 2002 at 12:34:58, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In the 1999 article in the IEEE journal;it was reported by Hsu that a single
>>>>>chip version of Deep Blue won a 10 game match against the top 2 commercial
>>>>>programs (of 1997) 10-0 ;and that Deep Blue Jr had a plus 2700 elo performance
>>>>>against the GMs working on the project .Have these games ever been Published?
>>>>>What were these 2 commercial programs?
>>>>
>>>>No the games were never published.  The name/version of the programs were never
>>>>published. The HW the programs were running on was never published.
>>>>
>>>>There has been a lot of talk on in this forum about this match and the results,
>>>>but it is all speculation since the above facts have never been published.
>>>
>>>
>>>actually the _names_ of the programs were published.  And the hardware used
>>>was published.  The games were not published for the games vs the micro
>>>programs.  The games against the human grandmasters are certainly public
>>>record as they were played at various public events and tournaments around the
>>>world...  I don't personally have them, but I have seen the pgn versions around
>>>somewhere.
>>>
>>>If you look back thru the CCC archives you will find information about the
>>>DB(one chip) vs the micros.  More than one person asked them about it at the
>>>various public presentations they made after the kasparov match, and then they
>>>reported a summary here...
>>
>>I do not want to get into a debate on this topic.  If you will tell me where
>>they (DB team) published, I would like to read the article.
>>
>>I am talking about information published by HSU or another member of the DB
>>team, I do not consider a discussion in this forum by people (not on the DB
>>team) to be valid.  If HSU or a member of the DB team discussed it here, then
>>point me to that post, but it must be HSU or a DB team member.
>>
>>If you can point me to a published reference by HSU or a team member, that
>>covers this information, that would be great!
>
>
>Hsu hasn't posted here.  However, several (including Bruce I believe) have
>attended talks he or Murray have given, and _they_ have reported on those
>talks here.
>
 A summary of one such talk by Hsu can be found here:
 http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/9798sum/lect03.html

>If you choose not to believe what they posted, that's a decision you have to
>make, of course...



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