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Subject: Re: Can black hold this position

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:36:41 02/28/02

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On February 28, 2002 at 15:00:03, Les Fernandez wrote:

>[D]8/4b1k1/R5pp/2p1pp2/1pQq4/1P1P3P/1P3PPK/8 w - -
>
>
>I am interested to know if the above position can be held by black.  White is
>short on time but can force perpetual by Qe6.  Although a rook is better then a
>bishop, most of the time, should white exchange queens here?  I am only an
>average player but after doing a little analysis on this position Crafty reports
>the following on a fairly slow machine. (Pentium 350, 256 mb ram)
>
>8/4b1k1/R5pp/2p1pp2/1pQq4/1P1P3P/1P3PPK/8 w - - acd 15; acn 170618898; acs 900;
>ce 155; pv Kg1 Qxc4 bxc4 h5 g3 Kf7 Kg2 Bf6 Rc6 Be7 Kf3 g5;
>
>Although white is reported to have a 1.55 advantage after Kg1 I wonder if the
>position can be held by black.  I also took a look at the position with white
>taking the queen and the ce still appeared about the same with black capturing
>white queen with cxd4.
>
>8/4b1k1/R5pp/2p1pp2/1p1Q4/1P1P3P/1P3PPK/8 b - - acd 17; acn 186582676; acs 902;
>ce -151; pv cxd4 Kg3 Kf7 Kf3 h5 Rc6 Bf6 Rb6 Be7 g3 Bf8 h4 Be7;
>
>Question is with queens off the board can the white rook start chopping up the
>black pawns while the black bishop exists? Can someone run this on better
>hardware and tkae it a bit deeper to see what falls out?

Beowulf does not swap queens as black (which I think is a mistake).  Now, when
you are behind, the last thing you want to do is trade equal pieces and
especially queens.  But in this case, I think it saves a draw.  Darting away
will probably end in a loss.

FEN = 8/4b1k1/R5pp/2p1pp2/1pQq4/1P1P3P/1P3PPK/8 w - -

. . . . . . . .
. . . . b . k .
R . . . . . p p
. . p . p p . .
. p Q q . . . .
. P . P . . . P
. P . . . P P K
. . . . . . . .

Current Position = 0.36
Number of Possible Moves = 32

  6    119      41      37153   Ra7 Kf6 Qc2 h5 Ra6+ Kg5 g3
  6    126      68      57382   Re6 Bg5 Rc6 Qxf2 Rc7+ Kh8 Qxc5 Qxc5 Rxc5
  6    128      86      71038   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf6 Kh2 Qd4 Rc6 Qxf2 Rc7+ Kh8 Qxc5
Qxc5 Rxc5
  7    188!    133     113312   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bd8 Rxe5 Qxd3
  7    216     171     145499   Kg1 e4 dxe4 Qxe4 Re6 Qb1+ Kh2 Bf8
  8    156?    299     279142   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf6 f4 exf4 Re5
  8    156     555     587444   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 g5 Rxe5 Qxd3 Rxe7+ Kf6
  9    216!    631     683063   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf8 Rxe5 Bd6 Re6 Be7
  9    244     708     782411   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Qa7 Qd5 Qc7 Rxe5 g5
 10    222    1207    1476034   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf6 Qa6 Qf7 Qc8 Kh7 Rd6 Be7
 11    230    3126    4201103   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf6 Qa6 Qf7 Qc8 Qa7
 12    199    8899   12272719   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf6 Qa6 Qf7 Qc6 f4 Kf1 g5 Rd6 f3
Qxc5
 12    199   99901  124204790   Kg1 Qd7 Re6 Bf6 Qa6 Qf7 Qc6 f4 Kf1 g5 Rd6 f3

Search Time : 999.0 Seconds
Total Nodes Searched   : 124204790  (76.1% Qui)
Total Nodes Evaluated  : 94319161
Cuts       : Delta 29423727  : SEE     5982429  : Mate          0
           : Razor  2707622  : Eval    39754979
Extensions : Check 12066219  : OneRep   954613  : CMThreat  86622
           : Pawn     45270  : Recap    366300  : RevCheck 131066
Hash Stores (Size) : 13171791  (8388593)
Hash Probes (Hits) : 91973068  (14600868)
EGTB Probes (Hits) : 4  (4)
Move Ordering      : 69.1%
Best Move = h2g1



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