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Subject: Re: Crafty Benchmark: AthlonXP-1860MHz vs Northwood P4-2465MHz

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 14:53:59 02/28/02

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On February 28, 2002 at 17:15:41, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On February 28, 2002 at 05:39:56, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>I know a few of you here are interested in the AMD vs Intel thing and just speed
>>in general. Well, here you go. Crafty benchmarks of CPU's clocked beyond
>>anything thats out currently. This should show us what we can expect in the near
>>future as clock speeds ramp up even further.
>>
>>Just got a friend to test Crafty on his new Northwood P4-1.8A at
>>2465MHz(137fsb). He's using a Pentium 4 optimized (and profiled) Crafty v18.11.
>>I am using Crafty 18.11 profiled for the AthlonXP. The results were taken
>>without a crafty.rc file. Here they are...
>>
>>Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood) 1800MHz overclocked to 2465MHz, 137fsb.
>>Total nodes: 104161030
>>Raw nodes per second: 992009
>>Total elapsed time: 105
>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 6.095238
>>
>>AMD AthlonXP 1900+ 1600MHz overclocked to 1860MHz, 155fsb.
>>Total nodes: 104161030
>>Raw nodes per second: 1197253
>>Total elapsed time: 87
>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 7.356322
>>
>>As you can see here... the Pentium 4 having twice the L2 and 605MHz more than
>>the AthlonXP still gets beaten by over 20%. Not too shabby I figure. :) Can't
>>wait for the AMD Hammer (x86-64)...
>
>
>Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood) 1800MHz overclocked to 2465MHz, 137fsb
>
>I see a couple of problems here. One the "Northwood" core AFAIK is 2.2Ghz before
>overclocking. You have it at 1.8Ghz? This appears to be the "Willamette" core on
>a 0.18 micron process.

You can buy Northwoods at 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, and 2.2 GHz.

>The other problem, is the bus 137Mhz, that is _slow_ and can't be using either
>DDR-SDRAM or RDRAM.

P4 default bus speed is 100MHz, though it is quad-pumped to make it effectively
400MHz.

>If you use RDRAM at 400Mgh with a "Northwood" core at 2.2Ghz or faster then your
>results will be far higher for your Crafty Benchmark/P-4 test.

I bet it would do just as well with DDR memory.  RDRAM has a high latency, which
is not so good for chess programs.



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