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Subject: Re: Extreme Computer Chess

Author: Ferdinand S. Mosca

Date: 07:48:42 03/01/02

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On February 28, 2002 at 18:29:31, pavel wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>             After organizing a differant kind of match, HLCC (High Level
>Computer Chess), I am thinking of organizing another differant kind of
>tournament. Naming it ECC (Extreme Computer Chess!) ;)
>
>Well here is the thought process behind the games.
>
>There will be a set of 1000s of games between chess programs at reasonable time
>control. The engines will be very selective, only the top 10 or top 5 or
>inbetween.
>Ussually I see same type of rating list from many peoples at differant hardware,
>not being sure how much accurate that list is! We ussually see an error margin
>big enough to make us think twice.
>
>I have done a similar match before between YACE and gandalf with 2000 games at 5
>mintues, but the game wsnt very prefferable because of the time control and it
>was played on one processor with ponder=on.
>
>Anyways, here are the topics in which I need your input.
>
>1) What should be the time control? I personally preffer 60mins/game, because we
>are talking about a lot of games here (could be 1000 games against just one
>opponent).

Go for 90 minutes per game Pav. Look for extreme middle, or pre-ending or even
interesting ending positions, out from an initial move list, and it should be
reversed color basis. I myself can contribute debatable positions from chess
informant games that GM's have analyzed. Dig some interesting positions from
current strong human tournaments. Statistics: many games, many games, many
games, many games but not all games are analyzed, just counting.

To generate as many games as possible (ERT comes to mind):
1. Stop engines if it reaches 120 moves without a winner assuming the game
started 1st move, just award draw.
2. Try to make aggressive resigning from engines say if both engines agree that
the one is worst by 3 pawns.

>
>2) programs to choose.
>
>my prefferance (and considering the fact that I have these programs)
>
>1) Fritz 7
>2) Shredder 6
>3) Chess tiger 14
>4) Junior 7
>5) Hiarcs 7
>6) Nimzo 8 (well...)
>7) crafty (latest version)
>8) Yace (latest version)
>9) Gandalf 4.32 ( maybe I will get 5.0 soon, but its not much of a differance)

Very simple, remove old programs, maybe Hiarcs 7?

Regards,
Dinan

>
>
>let me know what you think.
>any opinion, whether this is a stupid idea or even a differant idea, whatever
>comes in mind, something differant than ussual
>
>cheers ;)
>pavs



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