Author: Chessfun
Date: 13:38:31 03/01/02
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On March 01, 2002 at 16:11:31, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 01, 2002 at 15:02:04, Chessfun wrote: > >> >>Has anyone played a reasonable amount of long time control games with >>the CB version? What if any changes were there between 18.12 and 18.13? >> >>In my ongoing testing of Shredder 6 this Crafty version won +5 -0 =5. >>Shredder 6 also took a heavy loss against SOS CB version. Both these >>engines were using general.ctg. Although I haven't yet had time to check >>the games. > >It seems that Shredder gets good results in tournaments when stefan is >personally involved and Shredder had no problem to win against SOS in paderborn. > >I see it in so many tournaments that I tend to believe that it is because of >better opening preperation and not because of luck(even if shredder is slightly >better than other engines it cannot explain the fact that shredder wins a big >majority of the tournaments when stefan is involved and the ssdf never suggested >that shredder is number 1 except the last list when the difference is very small >and the latest fritz was not tested). > >My impression is that Shredder's opening preperation gives it about 100 elo >advantage relative to the opponents in tournaments when stefan is involved. I pretty much agree with that, I also recall we have probably been down this road during the Brain Games candidate debates here. Odd results though. Look at Junior 7 and Deep Junior, then Fritz 7a and 7b. Currently against the original Fritz 7 it's +1 -1 =2. Shredder 6 : 190 (+ 66,= 69,- 55), 52.9 % Deep Fritz : 10 (+ 4,= 5,- 1), 65.0 % Junior 6a : 10 (+ 4,= 3,- 3), 55.0 % Hiarcs 7.32 : 10 (+ 4,= 4,- 2), 60.0 % Nimzo 7.32 : 10 (+ 3,= 5,- 2), 55.0 % SOS (CB) : 10 (+ 1,= 4,- 5), 30.0 % Fritz 4.01 : 10 (+ 7,= 3,- 0), 85.0 % Junior 5.0 : 10 (+ 5,= 2,- 3), 60.0 % Chess Tiger 14.0 : 10 (+ 1,= 6,- 3), 40.0 % Gambit Tiger 2.0 : 10 (+ 3,= 2,- 5), 40.0 % Junior 7 : 10 (+ 3,= 3,- 4), 45.0 % Fritz 7 (No MMX) : 10 (+ 2,= 5,- 3), 45.0 % Fritz 7b : 10 (+ 4,= 4,- 2), 60.0 % Crafty 18.13 : 10 (+ 0,= 5,- 5), 25.0 % Fritz 7a : 10 (+ 2,= 1,- 7), 25.0 % Gandalf 5.1 : 10 (+ 4,= 4,- 2), 60.0 % Deep Junior 7 : 10 (+ 6,= 3,- 1), 75.0 % Crafty 17.11 : 10 (+ 6,= 3,- 1), 75.0 % Fritz 6 Old : 10 (+ 2,= 3,- 5), 35.0 % Fritz 5.32 : 10 (+ 5,= 4,- 1), 70.0 % Sarah.
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