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Subject: Re: I received a better settings for Fritz 7 by EMail !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 15:06:24 03/01/02

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On March 01, 2002 at 14:04:03, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 01, 2002 at 08:19:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>Yesterday I received an Email by a CCC member saying that after he saw my pieces
>>settings for Fritz7 he decided to make a small adjustment to my settings
>>and tested it using almost two identical computers an AMD Athlon 800 Mhz and an
>>AMD Duron 850 Mhz. his settings according to him is based on making the value of
>>the knight a fraction less than three pawns, but his bishop value a little bit
>>higher than three pawns.
>>
>>I Have been testings my setting of Fritz 7 on two different AMD computers and my
>>settings is scoring a little bit higher.
>>
>>AMD Athlon 800 Mhz Settings:              AMD Duron 850 Mhz Settings:
>>
>>Contemp value    = 15                     Contemp value   =   15
>>
>>Selectivity      =  2                     Selectivity     =   2
>>
>>Tablebase depth  =  3                     Tablebase dep   =   3
>>
>>Futility Pruning = On                     Futility Pruning = On
>>
>>Aggressiveness  = 2                       Aggressiveness  = 2
>>
>>Value Computer Queen  = 95                Value Computer Queen  = 95
>>
>>Value Computer Rook   = 50                Value Computer Rook   = 50
>>
>>Value Computer Bishop = 33                Value Computer Bishop  = 31
>>
>>Value Computer Knight = 32                Value Computer Knight  = 29
>>
>>Value Computer pawn   = 10                Value Computer pawn  = 10
>>
>>
>>On the left he used my previous settings and on the right he used his new
>>settings after a small match of 30 games at G/15 his setting won by 3.5 games
>>according to him. I will test his setting against shredder 6.0 using standard
>>SSDF time control.
>>
>>Jorge
>
>
>My intuition tells me that the new setting is not better.
>Fritz may play wrong trades of a piece for 3 pawns.
>
>Uri

Your intuition might be right Uri, early this morning I started testing his new
settings against Shredder 6.0 and so far the score is W2 L1 D0 in favor of
Shredder 6.0. But it would be hard to get into a position in which three pawns
would be traded for a knight since Fritz evaluation would detect the position as
unfavorable and avoid the trade.

The previous mini match between Shredder 6.0 Vs my settings of Fritz 7 ended W4
L3 D3 in favor of Fritz 7 using the same time control as these three.




Shredder 6 (2715) - Fritz 7 (2710) [E19]
Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/40+60'/20+30' My Place (1), 01.03.2002

W=19.3 ply; 352kN/s
B=18.5 ply; 705kN/s
 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.0-0 0-0 7.Nc3 Ne4 8.Qc2 Nxc3
9.Qxc3 c5 10.Rd1 d6 11.b3 Bf6 12.Bb2 Nd7 13.Qc2 Qc7 14.e4 cxd4 15.Nxd4 a6 16.Rd2
Rac8 17.Qd1 Rfe8 18.h4 Both last book move 18...Rcd8  -0.13/13  4:30  19.Qh5
-0.46/13  5:00  Nc5 (Qc5)  -0.09/14  9:59  20.Qg4 (Re1)  -0.46/13  4:30  20...h5
(h6)  -0.28/14  5:19  21.Qxh5  -0.57/14  5:58  Nxe4 (Bxe4)  -0.38/14  4:50
22.Re2 (Rdd1)  -0.42/13  4:37  22...Qc5 (Nc5)  -0.47/15  5:53  23.Qxc5  0.15/15
2:24  dxc5  -0.47/15  1:22  24.Nc6 (Bxe4)  0.34/16  5:01  24...Bxc6  -0.41/18
7:09  25.Bxf6  0.08/17  2:44  Nxf6 (gxf6)  -0.38/19  7:06  26.Bxc6  0.13/19
7:28  Re7  -0.44/17  5:03  27.Kg2  0.14/18  11:24  Rd4 (Rc7)  -0.38/18  8:22
28.f4  0.18/17  4:55  Rc7 (Kf8)  -0.38/18  8:36  29.Bf3  0.16/18  5:23  Rcd7
(Kf8)  -0.41/17  3:43  30.a4 (Rae1)  0.12/16  5:51  30...Rd3  -1.16/17  6:13
31.a5 (Rb1)  -0.25/17  9:04  31...Rxb3 (bxa5)  -1.38/17  6:48  32.axb6  -0.46/18
 6:52  Rdd3 (Rxb6)  -1.44/17  4:56  33.b7 (Rf2)  1.11/14  1:08  33...Rxf3 (Nd7)
-1.59/17  3:44  34.b8Q+  1.47/18  3:25  Rxb8  0.91/17  1:23  35.Kxf3  1.50/18
4:23  Rb4  0.91/17  5:19  36.Rxa6  1.44/15  4:19  Rxc4  0.91/15  2:54  37.Ra3
(Ra7)  1.55/14  4:05  37...Kh7 (Nd5)  1.00/16  5:16  38.Re5 (Ree3)  1.56/16
8:36  38...g6 (Kg6)  0.94/16  4:43  39.Ree3 (Ra7)  1.49/15  4:24  39...Nd5 (Rb4)
 1.03/17  3:56  40.Reb3  1.90/14  1:08  Rb4 (Kg7)  1.19/17  2:05  41.Rxb4
1.67/21  3:04  cxb4  1.22/18  32  42.Ra8 (Ra7)  1.65/19  3:01  42...Kg7 (Kh6)
1.50/19  4:32  43.g4  1.66/18  3:04  Kh7 (Nc3)  1.50/18  3:00  44.Ra7 (Rb8)
1.65/18  3:13  44...Kg7  1.59/19  2:45  45.Rd7  1.64/18  2:35  Nb6 (Kf6)
1.50/19  3:41  46.Rb7 (Re7)  1.64/19  3:21  46...Nd5  1.81/19  2:29  47.Rd7
1.94/18  3:19  Nb6 (Kf6)  0.00/22  3:53  48.Rd8  1.65/18  2:26  Nd5  1.41/18
3:29  49.Rb8  1.65/18  3:30  Kh7 (Kh6)  1.84/18  2:10  50.f5 (g5)  1.74/18  2:33
 50...gxf5  1.69/19  4:34  51.gxf5  1.65/16  15  Kg7 (exf5)  1.84/19  5:15
52.Ke4  1.47/18  3:23  Kf6  1.69/18  2:53  53.fxe6  1.71/18  3:03  fxe6  1.94/19
 3:44  54.Rg8  1.83/18  2:32  b3  2.09/18  3:40  55.Rb8 (Rg1)  1.97/20  2:51
55...Kg6  1.75/19  2:01  56.Rxb3  2.08/21  3:35  Kh5  1.59/19  2:00  57.Rh3
2.04/21  2:37  Kg4 (Nf6+)  1.59/20  1:53  58.Rh1  4.01/24  3:09  Nf6+  3.34/20
3:07  59.Ke5  4.00/25  4:26  Nh5  2.03/16  2:05  60.Kxe6  4.02/24  2:49  Ng3
3.19/18  2:54  61.Rh2  4.20/21  55  Nh5  3.16/18  37  62.Kf7 (Ke5)  4.18/20  38
62...Nf4  3.47/19  51  63.Kf6  4.35/21  54  Nd5+ (Kh5)  3.69/18  40  64.Kg6
4.40/22  52  Ne7+  3.81/19  1:22  65.Kf7  4.60/23  35  Nf5  3.75/19  1:14  66.h5
 4.65/23  50  Kg5  3.66/18  37  67.Rh1 (Rh3)  4.67/20  45  67...Kh6  4.06/18  33
 68.Kf6  4.92/20  36  Ng7 (Ng3)  4.22/19  37  69.Rh3  5.14/20  43  Ne8+  4.53/18
 36  70.Kf5  6.16/21  1:04  Nd6+  4.91/18  57  71.Kg4  6.38/21  51  Nf7  5.09/18
 41  72.Re3  6.75/21  40  Kg7  7.00/18  51  73.Re6  7.00/20  35  Nh6+  6.78/18
27  74.Kf4 (Kg5)  12.06/21  1:25  74...Nf7  7.37/18  30  75.Rg6+  13.77/18  1:29
 Kh7 9.66/18  1:07  1-0



Fritz 7 (2710) - Shredder 6 (2715) [E19]
Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/40+60'/20+30' My Place (2), 01.03.2002

W=14.8 ply; 673kN/s
B=13.5 ply; 250kN/s
 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.0-0 0-0 7.Nc3 Ne4 8.Qc2 Nxc3
9.Qxc3 c5 10.Rd1 d6 11.b3 Bf6 12.Bb2 Nd7 13.Qc2 Qc7 14.e4 cxd4 15.Nxd4 a6 16.Rd2
Rac8 17.Qd1 Rfe8 18.h4 Both last book move 18...Rcd8  -0.49/13  7:09  19.Qg4
-0.06/15  11:50  Ne5  -0.45/13  7:04  20.Qh5 (Qe2)  0.00/15  14:26  20...Nd7
-0.48/14  5:48  21.Rad1  0.03/14  7:03  Rc8 (Be5)  -0.43/12  5:22  22.Qg4 (Qe2)
0.06/13  3:29  22...Rcd8 (Qc5)  -0.37/13  9:02  23.f4 (a3)  -0.03/14  5:48
23...Qc5  -0.20/13  3:36  24.Rf2 (Kh2)  0.00/13  6:17  24...Ba8  -0.27/12  5:29
25.h5 (a3)  0.06/14  7:15  25...h6  -0.24/13  5:43  26.a3  0.16/13  4:02  Rc8
(Kh8)  -0.24/13  6:03  27.f5  0.25/13  4:45  Ne5  0.15/13  4:55  28.Qe2  0.00/14
 5:36  d5  0.38/12  5:45  29.cxd5  0.19/13  4:56  exd5  0.10/14  4:12  30.Rc1
0.22/14  3:01  Qd6 (Nc4)  0.03/13  3:17  31.Rxc8  0.22/14  3:30  Rxc8  -0.06/15
4:03  32.Qxa6  0.00/14  3:41  Rd8 (Re8)  -0.02/14  5:05  33.exd5  0.00/14  3:12
Ng4  -0.68/13  3:52  34.Rf4  -0.62/14  3:26  Ne3  -0.43/13  5:31  35.Qe2 (Nb5)
-0.56/13  6:08  35...Nxg2  -1.00/13  2:18  36.Qxg2  -0.53/14  3:06  Bxd5 (Re8)
-1.18/14  4:30  37.Qe2 (Qf2)  -0.91/14  3:56  37...Bb7  -2.21/12  4:42  38.Kh2
-2.03/14  5:57  Qd5  -2.30/12  3:27  39.Qf1  -2.34/15  3:44  Bg5  -2.36/13  6:40
 40.Rf3  -2.81/14  4:08  Qd7 (Qe4)  -2.59/12  1:40  41.Bc3 (Rd3)  -2.56/14  2:07
 41...Re8 (Bxf3)  -3.22/13  3:06  42.Rd3 (Rf2)  -3.09/14  3:49  42...Ba6
-4.64/14  7:53  43.b4  -5.22/15  3:03  Re3 (Bxd3)  -5.09/14  4:24  44.b5
-4.37/16  2:36  Bxb5  -4.26/11  12  45.Nxb5  -4.66/15  6:28  Rxd3  -4.47/11  10
46.a4  -5.31/15  6:29  Qd5  -5.41/12  3:13  47.Be1 (Bd4)  -6.47/14  4:50
47...Qc4  -5.72/12  1:04  48.Kg1 (Qf2)  -7.16/14  3:19  48...Be7  -6.40/12  1:17
 49.Kg2 (Qf4)  -7.62/14  2:22  49...Qe4+  -7.84/13  7:08  50.Kh2  -8.34/15  2:16
 Rd1  -7.84/14  5:37  51.Nc3 -8.87/17  3:23  0-1



Shredder 6 (2715) - Fritz 7 (2710) [D02]
Athlon 1.2 Ghz, 120'/40+60'/20+30' My Place (3), 01.03.2002

W=14.2 ply; 281kN/s
B=13.7 ply; 731kN/s
 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.Bf4 c5 4.e3 e6 5.Nbd2 Nc6 6.c3 Bd6 7.Bg3 0-0 8.Bd3 Qe7
9.Ne5 Bxe5 10.dxe5 Nd7 11.f4 f6 Both last book move 12.Qh5  0.38/15  5:30  g6
-0.64/13  6:48  13.exf6  0.36/15  6:17  Nxf6  -0.77/13  6:57  14.Qg5  0.48/14
3:12  Qg7 (Nh5)  -0.70/12  8:41  15.0-0-0 (Bc2)  0.46/14  3:56  15...a5 (c4)
-0.54/13  16:56  16.Bh4 (Nf3)  0.37/13  9:20  16...c4  -0.66/12  3:24  17.Be2
(Bc2)  -0.16/14  5:10  17...b5  -0.92/11  52  18.e4  -0.30/13  6:29  b4
-0.95/12  6:58  19.Qg3  -0.26/12  3:43  Rb8 (a4)  -0.79/11  5:17  20.Rhf1
-0.19/10  1:14  a4 (Ba6)  -0.97/10  55  21.f5 (e5)  0.00/13  6:10  21...bxc3
-1.67/11  8:37  22.Qxc3  0.03/11  28  gxf5  -1.65/10  2:14  23.Bg3 (exd5)
-0.24/12  3:09  23...Rb6  -1.38/12  10:41  24.exd5 (exf5)  -0.40/12  3:49
24...exd5  -1.64/11  7:08  25.Bf2 (Nxc4)  -0.59/12  5:40  25...Rb8 (Rb7)
-1.53/11  12:14  26.Rfe1 (Bg3)  -0.60/12  6:47  26...Ne4 (Kh8)  -1.89/11  3:11
27.Qxg7+ (Nxe4)  -0.73/13  3:44  27...Kxg7  -2.57/5  0  28.Nxe4  -0.73/14  6:02
fxe4  -1.75/13  2:39  29.Bg3  -1.08/15  3:47  Rb5  -2.16/12  37  30.b3  -1.12/14
 3:10  axb3  -2.04/12  3:08  31.axb3  -1.16/14  2:49  e3 (Rxb3)  -2.01/11  2:24
32.bxc4  -1.30/14  2:51  dxc4  -1.90/11  38  33.Kc2  -1.24/13  5:11  Rff5
-1.95/11  2:25  34.Rd6  -1.30/12  2:57  Rfc5  -1.93/12  1:57  35.Ra1  -1.41/11
1:43  Bf5+  -2.38/10  27  36.Kd1  -2.03/13  6:10  Rb4  -3.08/11  1:07  37.Be1
-2.08/11  2:31  c3  -2.72/10  17  38.Kc1 (Bd3)  -2.05/11  1:30  38...Na5
-3.50/12  59  39.Bd1  -2.12/10  1:05  e2 (Be4)  -3.69/10  37  40.Bc2  -2.62/12
3:46  Rb2  -3.58/11  42  41.Ba4  -2.86/11  3:35  Rcb5  -5.59/13  4:19  42.Bxc3+
-3.43/13  7:15  Kg8  -5.60/12  39  43.Re6  -3.41/13  5:05  Rb1+  -5.72/12  39
44.Kd2  -3.16/13  1:19  Bxe6  -5.95/15  6:06  45.Rxb1  -3.36/14  2:22  Rxb1
-5.99/14  45  46.Kxe2  -3.37/11  7  Nb3 (Nc4)  -6.01/13  41  47.Ke3 (g3)
-3.60/14  4:43  47...Rh1 (Rg1)  -6.33/15  2:13  48.Bb5 (Bxb3)  -3.80/15  3:13
48...Rxh2  -6.71/14  43  49.Bc6  -4.13/16  3:03  Rh5  -6.80/14  46  50.Bf3
-4.22/15  2:07  Rc5  -6.90/14  59  51.Bf6 (Bb2)  -4.43/14  2:12  51...Kf7 (Bd5)
-7.10/14  36  52.Bh4 (Bh8)  -4.64/14  3:30  52...Bd5  -7.40/13  39  53.Bh5+
(Bxd5+)  -4.85/14  2:03  53...Ke6  -7.55/13  43  54.Bg4+  -5.60/15  3:15  Kd6
-7.66/13  57  55.Bh3 (Be1)  -6.08/15  6:32  55...Rc2  -8.05/12  1:10  56.Bf5
(Be1)  -6.32/14  2:42  56...Rxg2  -8.13/14  1:32  57.Bxh7  -6.41/15  58  Rg4
(Ke5)  -8.11/14  1:52  58.Be1 (Bf2)  -6.27/16  2:22  58...Rg7 (Nd4)  -8.38/14
1:12  59.Bb4+  -6.28/15  59  Ke6  -8.46/15  1:35  60.Bc2 (Bb1)  -6.36/17  2:15
60...Rg3+  -8.55/14  1:11  61.Kf4  -6.47/17  1:24  Rf3+  -8.43/13  40  62.Kg5
-6.49/17  1:12  Ke5 (Nd4)  -8.54/12  24  63.Bd1  -6.49/15  46  Rg3+  -8.54/12
16  64.Kh4  -6.51/17  1:18  Rg2 (Rd3)  -8.54/12  27  65.Bg4 (Kh3)  -6.55/14  37
65...Nd4  -8.70/13  1:20  66.Be7 (Bd7)  -6.80/14  2:59  66...Be6  -13.02/13
1:19  67.Bxe6 -10.43/16  1:58  0-1

Jorge




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