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Subject: Re: Position from the Washington Post

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 03:04:23 03/06/02

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On March 06, 2002 at 05:37:14, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On March 06, 2002 at 05:24:33, Terry Ripple wrote:
>
>>On March 06, 2002 at 04:58:02, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>
>>>On March 06, 2002 at 04:50:37, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 06, 2002 at 04:33:00, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 06, 2002 at 04:00:23, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 06, 2002 at 03:33:03, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I disagree. Sometimes it's better to use your brain than table bases.
>>>>>>>This position may very well be a win for white. It depends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't depend on anything. It's a theoretical draw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>GCP
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you the Pope???
>>>>>As I wrote previously, you snipped it, d7 may win and a win is *not* a
>>>>>theoretical draw inspite of your table bases.
>>>>>:-)))
>>>>
>>>>By the same reasoning, Rb1 may also win.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>Don't get your reasoning. :-)
>>>But here I disagree again. Rb1 is not a win. The winning line starts with d7!
>>>Take a chess board, set up the position, have a cup of coffee and try it out,
>>>you will have some fun. It's not too difficult.
>>>BTW, the newspaper was right.
>>>Kind regards
>>>Bernhard
>>-----------------
>>The Washington Post would be correct if white could 0-0-0 (1.d7 Kc7 2.d8(Q)+ KxQ
>>3.0-0-0 + Ke7 4.KxR, black is history and game over!
>>
>>But if this was an actual game i doubt if the above was the case!
>>
>>The move 1. "d7" would follow by Kc7, then either white's move, "Ra7+" or "Rd1"
>>would be forced to hold the pawn.
>>
>>If Ra7+, then Kd8
>>If  Rc1, then Rb8
>>
>>In both cases black will move his Rook into a position to attack the white pawn
>>and the pawn will be lost.
>>
>>Regards,
>>    Terry
>
>Assume it was a simple little study taken into the newspaper. It's not unusual
>that chess programmers and chess computer users have problems with studies. Here
>you were the victim.
>Forget about any lines showing the draw.
>Kind regards
>Bernhard
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It's obvious that the person who copied this position didn't include the proper
FEN which would allow 0-0-0, then the Washington Post would be correct that
white has a win, but without the castling rights then it's an obvious draw!

Best Regards,
Terry



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