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Subject: Another Clever Problem; Samuel Loyd New York Albion 1857, Att. Dr. Hyatt

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 10:55:14 03/06/02

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On March 06, 2002 at 13:09:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 06, 2002 at 11:20:17, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>[D]8/8/8/8/8/6P1/6k1/4KR1R w
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>>Mate in 3
>>
>>Terry
>
>
>This is a mate in 4, not a mate in 3, as confirmed by EGTBs...

Dr. Hyatt with all due respect, EGTBs will _not_ help you with this type
of problem. EGTBs look at it as an endgame where it's assumed the King and both
Rooks have been moved. Maybe EGTBs can be adjusted for this situation?

Castling is the correct solution, which forces mate in 3.

BTW CM8000 in mate mode or in normal mode will find mate in 3 instantly!

This problem created 145 years ago by Samuel Lloyd when he was not yet 16 years
of age, is still considered one of the most famous problems in chess history.

http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/puzzle9/puzz9-6a.htm

The solution can be found at this link.

http://www.chessbase.com/puzzle/puzzle9/games/p9_6.htm

Regards,
 Terry McCracken

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  • Re: Another Clever Problem; Samuel Loyd New York Albion 1857, Att. Dr. Hyatt Terry McCracken 13:55:53 03/06/02
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                • Re: Another Clever Problem; Samuel Loyd New York Albion 1857, Att. Dr. Hyatt Heiner Marxen 09:40:27 03/07/02
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