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Subject: Re: Another Clever Problem; Samuel Loyd New York Albion 1857, Att. Dr. Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:20:29 03/07/02

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On March 07, 2002 at 12:18:16, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On March 07, 2002 at 10:46:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 07, 2002 at 00:27:53, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On March 06, 2002 at 23:48:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 06, 2002 at 21:29:05, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 06, 2002 at 20:53:25, Jason Williamson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just a little point...this is the Computer Chess Club, not a general chess
>>>>>>forum...hence if you don't put the correct fen string in, then its difficult to
>>>>>>use the position with computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JW
>>>>>
>>>>>Sounds lazy to me:o)
>>>>>
>>>>>I've been told the FEN was wrong and ok. So that doesn't help much!
>>>>>
>>>>>If the FEN is not ok repost my diagram with the correct FEN!
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyways the "Beauty" of this problem has been lost in all this quibbling:(
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The problem is there is _no_ "correct FEN" for a position with a partially-
>>>>completed move.  FEN does not allow nor consider such a thing, for good
>>>>reason.  How would you indicate what piece is "off the board and 'en route'"??
>>>
>>>That's not the point! But to you that is all there is to it, and that's that.
>>>It's a brilliant problem, that's the point!
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>It's a "brilliant problem" to give someone a position that is _wrong_ and then
>>expect them to solve it?  As a diagram in a chess book, it makes sense because
>>such diagrams never tell whether white/black can castle or not.  But when you
>>post a FEN position description, it _does_ give that information.  In fact,
>>it _must_ according to the FEN specification.
>>
>>That was _my_ point...
>
>Trust me I got your point all too well! First show me the correct FEN and two
>you have made it impossible by your FEN rule base to show such a problem as when
>a person knows to look for castles, then the problem is ruined!
>
>Please show me the FEN rules, list them please, with an explanation as I am not
>familar with them thanks!
>
>Terry

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