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Subject: Re: Endgame Test Position

Author: John Merlino

Date: 20:37:16 03/07/02

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On March 07, 2002 at 22:45:55, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>[D] 5b1k/3R4/5P2/p1rB4/8/8/6K1/8 b - -
>
>I think, this is an interesting position. It is from an ICC game of Shredder 6
>vs. Yace. Yace moved a4? and lost fast after this. I have looked at some
>variations, and the natural looking move a4 indeed seems to be a loss, while Rb5
>probably holds the draw.
>
>Perhaps I am too naive, but when I watched this game, I first was confident,
>that it should be a very easy draw. My (stupid?) reasoning was: A computer will
>not lose KRBKR (when he does not see the exceptional win fast). The position
>here is KRBPKRBP. The Bs are of opposite color. So, I thought, it should allways
>be possible, to sac one B for a P, and have an easy draw. Well, I was totally
>wrong, and so was the knowledge I coded into my engine.
>
>How long does your engine need, to avoid a4? How long does it need, to see a
>convincing winning score after a4? (Kg3 is a forced win, other moves perhaps,
>too).
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

So much for the axiom "passed pawns must be pushed!" Chessmaster 8000 (PIII-733)
says:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	2/3	0.83	790		1...Rc1 2.Rd8 Rc2+ 3.Kf3
0:00	2/3	0.34	930		1...a4 2.Rd8 Rc2+ 3.Kf3
0:00	3/4	0.37	2399		1...a4 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Be4+ Kg8 4.Ra8
0:00	4/5	0.33	12911		1...a4 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Kf3 Bg7 4.fxg7
					Kxg7
0:00	5/6	0.26	60254		1...a4 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Kf3 a3 4.Ke4 Bh6
0:03	6/7	0.29	244451		1...a4 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Kf3 a3 4.Ke4
					Bg7 5.fxg7 Kxg7
0:12	7/8	0.62	1086622		1...a4 2.Be4 Kg8 3.Bh7+ Kh8 4.Bb1
					Kg8 5.Ba2+ Kh8 6.Rd8 Rc2+ 7.Kf3
					Rxa2 8.Rxf8+ Kh7 9.Ra8 Kg6
0:22	7/8	0.45	2115956		1...Rb5 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Kf3 Kg6 4.Ke4
					Bb4 5.Bc4 Rf5
0:47	8/9	0.45	4359039		1...Rb5 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Kf3 Kg6 4.Ke4
					Bb4 5.Bc4 Rf5
1:47	9/10	0.43	10276493	1...Rb5 2.Be4 Rh5 3.Rd8 Kg8 4.Bd5+
					Kh7 5.Ba2 Rg5+ 6.Kh3 Bg7 7.Bb1+
					Kh6 8.f7 Rh5+ 9.Kg4 Rg5+ 10.Kf4
5:30	10/11	0.56	31689695	1...Rb5 2.Rd8 Kh7 3.Bc6 Rg5+ 4.Kh3
					Rc5 5.Be4+ Kg8 6.Bd5+ Kh7 7.Kg4
					a4 8.Kf5 a3 9.Ke6

jm




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