Author: Joshua Lee
Date: 20:58:13 03/14/02
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>Yes a test can be devised;now however I would recommend BS 2830.You should also >note that the top pogrames are very close in Strenght.And finally if you could >accept computer as playing at 2700 elo(which I think you dont seeing your posts >here ) it would help you own accessment immensely Well i can accept that they are playing over 2400 strength as far as a Tactical Type position, Positionally that is really hard to say just look at the losses that Deep Junior on a freaking 8 way system, and look at the Games GM Van Wely won against Rebel Century. At best in those 4 games just mentioned a computer played 400elo less than the human and HOW badly the computer looses when they do. I would except if i were you that Computers Do not know everything a GM knows , when they can Play Positionally , when they don't even need an opening book, when they don't make the wrong moves immediately when they get out of book, when they leave very few test set positions unsolved. THEN you can think about how strong they are. You probably think the SSDF list is totally accurate. Yea Fritz is as good as Capablanca.... NOT. Tactically yes Computers can play as well as some GM's , Positionally , and Endgame and even in the openings(if the comp is without it's book) no way. If a comp just wins and draws against an average opponent with an elo of around 2430 , doen't make the Comp a GM. Your basis on Programs being stronger is on many short matches with different programs on different hardware instead of Lenthy matches which make the margin of error much smaller. As an example GM Wely can lose to a program that is within 400elo of himself and That same program can beat GM Wely. I must be a master because i've beaten masters at Blitz (2335elo). No, but some of the games were 30 to 5 minutes 5 to 2 minutes , 5min, etc I am not quite expert strength, I have Drawn WeakComp on ICC so I must be a Master Like Every Computer is a GM. Your logic is based on small matches. Get a Master to play 100 Games lets see the score, probably the Computer would win. Get an IM to play and the score would be alot closer. More interesting a topic than this is How many games are needed between two opponents to tell which one is stronger and by how much? Take Care
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