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Subject: Re: visual C.net

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:24:34 03/15/02

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On March 15, 2002 at 00:54:23, martin fierz wrote:

>aloha
>
>i think visual C.net is shipping now - has anybody already tested if the
>compiler has improved over version 6.0?
>
>cheers
>  martin

yes visual c++ NET 7.0 is a joke for C anyway.

In a database server to web conversion tool i compiled conversion
from float to int already gets buggy when -O2 is used,
with debug info it goes ok.

This compiler is a joke everywhere. First of all looks of the interface,
i do not like it. Secondly there are major bugs in creating projects,
no way to create a project which you then can easily debug.

Converting projects from msvc 6.0 goes ok and debugging them too.

The real problem is the major bugs in the compiler. I don't know who wrote it,
but it's a beginner who wrote it. Probably C/C++ compiler has no big
priority anymore within visual c++ and they might have put their best
man on the joke language C#, which is an obvious attempt to keep people
away from getting cross platform in the future, after the successfull
attempt of JAVA from SUN in this direction.

When i compile diep with 7.0 i can't express very well what i feel when
i see its output. Loads of eval code gets wrong compiled, loads of
patterns give unexpected results back, even though it is very neatly
coded code with pointers.

Again the same problem arises which weirdly is in nearly all compilers
that are tricked to do better on the specbenches: allocate some
2 dimensional arrays from your own datatypes. then keep reusing 2
variables to loop through all those arrays.

It simply creates wrong code here. Amazingly it doesn't crash.

Really pathetic is it is impossible to create a simple project which
can get debugged without modifying loads of options.

Designers of the user interface must be shipped back to school too. They
are using Internet Explorer look and feel, something which i do not like.

Now about speed of the compiler. It generates 2% slower code than
visual c++ 6.0 sp4 with processor pack.

When i realized this I have thrown the compiler out of my window of course,
for a compiler which creates bugs in my program i have no respect, a
compiler which generates slower code AND bugs, that's really too much
for me.

Best regards,
Vincent



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