Author: martin fierz
Date: 11:52:24 03/15/02
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On March 15, 2002 at 10:24:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On March 15, 2002 at 00:54:23, martin fierz wrote: > >>aloha >> >>i think visual C.net is shipping now - has anybody already tested if the >>compiler has improved over version 6.0? >> >>cheers >> martin > >yes visual c++ NET 7.0 is a joke for C anyway. > >In a database server to web conversion tool i compiled conversion >from float to int already gets buggy when -O2 is used, >with debug info it goes ok. > >This compiler is a joke everywhere. First of all looks of the interface, >i do not like it. Secondly there are major bugs in creating projects, >no way to create a project which you then can easily debug. > >Converting projects from msvc 6.0 goes ok and debugging them too. > >The real problem is the major bugs in the compiler. I don't know who wrote it, >but it's a beginner who wrote it. Probably C/C++ compiler has no big >priority anymore within visual c++ and they might have put their best >man on the joke language C#, which is an obvious attempt to keep people >away from getting cross platform in the future, after the successfull >attempt of JAVA from SUN in this direction. > >When i compile diep with 7.0 i can't express very well what i feel when >i see its output. Loads of eval code gets wrong compiled, loads of >patterns give unexpected results back, even though it is very neatly >coded code with pointers. > >Again the same problem arises which weirdly is in nearly all compilers >that are tricked to do better on the specbenches: allocate some >2 dimensional arrays from your own datatypes. then keep reusing 2 >variables to loop through all those arrays. > >It simply creates wrong code here. Amazingly it doesn't crash. > >Really pathetic is it is impossible to create a simple project which >can get debugged without modifying loads of options. > >Designers of the user interface must be shipped back to school too. They >are using Internet Explorer look and feel, something which i do not like. > >Now about speed of the compiler. It generates 2% slower code than >visual c++ 6.0 sp4 with processor pack. > >When i realized this I have thrown the compiler out of my window of course, >for a compiler which creates bugs in my program i have no respect, a >compiler which generates slower code AND bugs, that's really too much >for me. > >Best regards, >Vincent oh, that sounds really terrible... so i guess we'll have to wait for 7.1 or something... i was also afraid that microsoft would work more on their .net attempt to kill java and on C# than on the C compiler, but i would not have imagined that it would actually get worse! but then, what do you expect from microsoft :-) aloha martin
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