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Subject: Re: Which new programs are due soon, or are expected to be strongest yet

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:40:55 03/15/02

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On March 15, 2002 at 13:50:33, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On March 15, 2002 at 02:38:05, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On March 14, 2002 at 08:03:23, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On March 14, 2002 at 07:54:14, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've lost contact with all information, since I went away 4 months ago. I've now
>>>>been back two weeks, but can't see anything concrete.
>>>>Shredder 6.0, Fritz 7.0 look like they are quite compatible with the recent
>>>>Tigers, but not better. Deep Fritz looks a little below the top now, but only
>>>>slightly.
>>>>When will there be something clear?!
>>>>So Fritz, Shredder and Tigers are about equal top now?
>>>>
>>>>What's in plan now? anything which might break away from the pack?
>>>>
>>>>I'm sorry to ask these obvious questions, but I simply can't see what cokking at
>>>>the momment. Results and reports which are posted I often can't understand.
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>I think a lot of people are anxious to see the next Tiger, but
>>>Christophe is refusing to give any expected arrival dates.
>>>
>>>It'll be interesting to see how Fritz 7 does in the next SSDF
>>>list. I would expect it to be a bit (say 20-30 elo) stronger
>>>than the ChessTigers, but that could be totally off too.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>I suppose what we really want to see is Fritz 8.0, as Mr. Morsch was explaining,
>>that Fritz 7.0 has much more knowledge, but speed got left behind, which he will
>>correct in Fritz 8.0.
>>So if Fritz 7.0 is even now the top of a comprehensive rating list like ssdf,
>>then fritz 8.0 would REALY be the ideal program.
>>Speed within the software itself sometimes seems to be more effective than
>>merely multipliyng Mhz,Ghz, with the hardware, although I'm not familiar with
>>all the technical workings of it. That's just my observation.
>>If only this can be done right now!
>>
>>Christophe, can you just hint something about what's going on with your
>>programs?
>>I don't know if you have said anything during the last 4 months!
>>S.Taylor
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>
>Well I'm glad that you ask. Usually people just ask about the release date of
>the program, without apparent interest for what will be in it.
>
>What's going on with Tiger since version 14.0 is that unlike the previous years
>I have worked a lot of the EVALUATION of the program. I have tried to work on
>evaluation holes (mising knowledge about positional features) and tried to fill
>these holes with good chess knowledge.
>
>For example there is much more endgame evaluation in Tiger 15. Also better
>evaluation of the bishop pair (it took approximately 2 months of extensive
>research).
>
>I have worked on search algorithms less than the previous years because as I
>said above I focused on the evaluation function. However Tiger15's search is
>already better than Tiger14's. I'm getting a much better search depth in the
>endgame for example, and many selection holes have been fixed. I also get better
>results when mates combinations start to appear on the board.
>
>Overall I have the feeling that Chess Tiger 15 will not be much better than CT14
>in fast games, but that the difference will be clearly seen at long time
>controls because of better stability (reliability) of the evaluation and less
>selection holes.

I do not understand
I remember that you say that fixing the evaluation is more important for palm
tiger because the difference is bigger when you cannot search deep enough so
I thought that there is going to be bigger improvement in blitz based on your
posts.

Uri



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