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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger palm 14.9 beta2 Vs Gaviota 0.30 (433 Mhz without TB)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 23:13:22 03/16/02

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On March 16, 2002 at 22:29:26, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On March 16, 2002 at 15:01:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 16, 2002 at 14:34:13, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On March 16, 2002 at 14:26:20, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>In the first game Chess Tiger 14.9 was playing without using its Turbo Mode, in
>>>>which it enables it to think on its opponent time to move. Now I activated Turbo
>>>>Mode, but I am still playing Using my handspring at 32 Mhz without using
>>>>Afterburner or Fastcpu. This time the Tiger was hungry and decided to grab a
>>>>Gaviota for lunch.
>>>
>>>PS: Gaviota is playing the ending terrible, but nextgame I will continue vs Gnu
>>>Chess v5.02 Est rating of 2225.
>>
>>Some details:
>>
>>Gaviota is estimated to have rating of 2170 when GNU chess5.03 is estimated to
>>have rating of 2150
>>see http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/23352.htm
>>
>>I do not know GNUchess5.02 but I doubt if it is better than Gaviota.
>>
>>Gnu chess played in the 3th division based on the history pages of Leo when
>>gaviota scored clearly better than GNUchess.
>>
>>I admit that it was not GNUchess5.02 but I do not know if there is a big
>>difference between 5.00 and 5.02
>>
>>
>>
>>I think that it may be more interesting to see programs of CCC memebers and not
>>GNUchess.
>>
>>possible candidate is Averno
>>
>>The author of faile also posted in the past(faile is clearly weaker than
>>gaviota)
>>
>>My program may be also a candidate
>>
>>Today I believe that it is only in similar level to faile but I plan to do it
>>stronger and it is going to be available in april.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>It is interesting to see the progress of somebody who has been suggesting
>improvements to programmers for a long time, and has eventually decided to try
>them himself.
>
>I'm glad to see that you are writing your own chess program. I'm sure it will
>have some unique features, and that's good. I would recommend you to reinvent
>the wheel and not create yet another Crafty clone. It will not be a waste of
>time. It is how things were in the eighties, and it was a great time for
>computer chess.
>
>My best wishes to... Huh... Have you chosen a name for your chess program?
>
>
>
>    Christophe


Movei is the name of it.

The latest tested version  has only a piece square table evaluation with no book
and no hash table.

The piece square table is only changed in the endgame.


It can be improved by better order of moves and it can be also improved by
better extension and pruning rules(it is using only some futility pruning today
and it does not use partial extensions) but inspite of all the problems the
latest version could beat Faile with no book 6-4 in a match(time control was 1
minute/40 moves,2 minutes/40 moves...5 minutes/40 moves)

It also lost 8.5-1.5 in a match against GNUchess5.03 in the same conditions.
hardware was one pIII800.

I believe that Faile and Gnuchess used hash tables in the matches(I told them no
instruction about it but usually programs with hash tables use some hash tables
by the default option)

Uri



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