Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:16:47 03/18/02
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On March 18, 2002 at 08:06:28, Terry McCracken wrote: >On March 18, 2002 at 04:38:05, Mark Schreiber wrote: > >>On March 17, 2002 at 22:47:02, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>On March 17, 2002 at 20:55:29, Mark Schreiber wrote: >>> >>>>On March 17, 2002 at 18:17:49, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 17, 2002 at 17:52:47, Mark Schreiber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On March 17, 2002 at 17:42:06, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On March 17, 2002 at 16:35:05, Mark Schreiber wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Where is Gulko playing? >>>>>>>>It seems he is playing in the privacy of his home. >>>>>>>>Is there a judge checking that there is no cheating? >>>>>>>>Is there someone to check he is not using a computer for assistance. >>>>>>>>Is he allowed to us a computer for assistance? >>>>>>>>What are the rules of this match? >>>>>>>>Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why don't you find out more about the match before posting things that might >>>>>>>imply impropriety on GM Gulko's part? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>He hardly needs to cheat. If he did I'd say why didn't he crush Deep Junior 7? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Terry >>>>>> >>>>>>I have looked at the announcements of the sponsors Chessbase and >>>>>>KasparovChess.com. I have asked on this and KasparovChess.com bulletin boards. I >>>>>>have sent emails to the sponsors Chessbase and KasparovChess.com. I have not >>>>>>found any answers or any rules to the match. I do not make these statements >>>>>>lightly. Have you found any information to the contrary? >>>>>>Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The point I was trying to make which seems to allude you for some reason is, you >>>>>DON'T ask questions in such a way as to cast doubt on the CREDIBILITY of >>>>>Grandmaster Boris Gulko! >>>>> >>>>>That is simply WRONG! >>>>> >>>>>Terry >>>> >>>>These credibility questions are natural. If you don’t want credibility questions >>>>make the rules and match public. >>>>Mark >>> >>>Tell that to Grandmaster Boris Gulko! >>> >>>Shay Bushinsky author of Junior 7 along with Amir Ban explained the Match Rules, >>>and trusts GM Gulko's integrity. >>> >>>The problem with your question assumes GM Gulko could and might cheat! >>> >>>Now if he wins the match you and others might say GM Gulko may have cheated! >>> >>>It is simply wrong to challenge GM Gulko's honesty. >>> >>>It's not even a serious match, why would he even bother to cheat? >>> >>>His credentials are impressive, and I expect a close score, giving the edge to >>>GM Gulko. >>> >>>Terry >> >>Where are the match rules? I missed them. >>I am not challenging GM Gulko credibility as much as I am challenging the >>sponsors to make a better tournament. >>This is a serious match. There are 2 well known sponsors Chessbase and >>KasparovChess.com with many people analyzing the games. >>Compare Gulko’s credentials to Loek Van Wely. Loek Van Wely, rated 95 points >>higher than Gulko, drew a 4 game computer match at slower time control against 1 >>program. >>Common sense says the computers should win. >>Mark > >Well you don't have any common sense! Your statement above is specious! > >Forget about Chessbase, This Is NOT a SRERIOUS MATCH. > >Shay Bushinsky explained this to you, it's out of Mr. Gulko's home, it's a >casual match. > >Mr. Gulko is a very seasoned veterern, and an expert against computers. > >Comparing him with GM Loek van Wely makes little sense, there is less then 100 >pts. between them, and Loek van Wely may not be any stronger than Gulko, in fact >the reverse may be true! > >Loek van Wely drew a 4 game match. So? Do you understand the game? If you did >you would realize Loek van Wely with the exception of game 3 a truly bueatiful >game for Rebel, had complete control of the match and out-played Rebel, letting >a easy draw which was a difficult win slip through his fingers and lost the >game. > >Had Loek van Wely drew game 1 which he could have, Ed offered, he would have won >the match. > > >Wake up....GM's are still tearing comps. apart when they know their weaknesses! > >GM's are super strong and people don't seem to "get" that around here except for >a few. > >Terry Rebel's result against van wely is not the only good performance of computers against GM's. I also do not think that van wely had complete control of the match. Getting better position in most games is not enough. if one player gets a better position only to blunder and lose later than this player has not complete control on the game. Uri
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