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Subject: Re: NO!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:29:08 03/20/02

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On March 20, 2002 at 16:57:54, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On March 20, 2002 at 16:21:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2002 at 16:07:11, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>
>>>>
>>>>>Even three or four days still will not play to perfection.
>>>>>Just look at the numbers 40 to the 30 power will still not give perfection and
>>>>>might take years to complete one move.
>>>>>But we are working on it.
>>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>It is not a proof that perfection is impossible.
>>>>
>>>>better searching rules(better pruning and extensions) together with better
>>>>evaluation may convince programs to find always the best move.
>>>>
>>>>You do not need to search everything to the end of the game in order to do it
>>>>and the question how many plies you need to search is dependent on the
>>>>evaluation and on the extensions and the pruning rules.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Hmm, I think you need to search pretty deeply to find which is best of 1.d4 and
>>>1.e4 :)
>>>And you prove nothing with pruning rules and nullmove, only way to be _really
>>>sure_ is to do a fullwidth search :(
>>>
>>>-S.
>>
>>The point is that you do not need to prove that you play perfect game
>>in order to play perfect game and I guess that both 1.e4 and 1.d4
>>lead to draw.
>
>Sure all you need to play perfect is luck, but how will you _know_ that you play
>the perfect game, you can't even tell which is better of e4 and d4? :)
>
>-S.

I cannot know but if I see that I never lose games I am going to start to
suspect that I play perfect.

It is not a proof but if I lose games when I do not always win with one of the
colors then it is a proof that I do not play perfect.

Uri



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