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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger versus Gulko

Author: karen Dall Lynn

Date: 07:03:14 03/21/02

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On March 21, 2002 at 06:49:08, James T. Walker wrote:

>On March 20, 2002 at 21:03:04, eric guttenberg wrote:
>
>>Jim
>>
>>I don't know which is stronger but I agree wholeheartedly with your
>>statement that the only way to test is with many games on 2 equal
>>computers. A lot of people (like myself) simply don't have 2 computers
>>and playing matches on a single machine is the only option. It can be fun
>>and can be useful for some purposes but measuring the relative strengths
>>of various chess programs should be done in the environment for which they
>>were designed.
>>For that reason I have long felt that the results you publish are among the
>>the more probative ones seen on this site. Thank you.
>>
>>eric
>
>Hello Eric,
>Thank you for your kind words.  Just to gather some more data on F7 & CT14 I
>played some more Blitz games last nite.  To my surprise Fritz 7 beat Chess Tiger
>14.0 very nicely by 38.5-23.5.  This is the first time either one has won by
>this wide margin.  But what I did was to "load up" Fritz 7.  Meaning I cleared
>the Fritz 7 book and then let it learn from all my databases.  This gave Fritz
>the "experience" of about 1700 games.  This seems to be a clear advantage for
>Fritz since I cannot do this with Tiger in the Chesspartner GUI.  I haven't had
>time to inspect the games yet so I'm still suspicious that something else may
>have been wrong.  If not this is quite an eye opener.
>Jim


Hello

After having many nights spent in blitz engine matches - within one computer,
ponder on/off and dealing with many engine parameters choice arrays - I came to
have the conviction that all these tests are perfectly *biased*. Also, I believe
that no one can say which one of these two - F7 or CT14 - are the best; although
I also believe that together they are the best if compared with any of the
others. Yet I suspect CT14 may be at the top, but this is rather a non-rational,
baseless guesswork. And I promised my-self to not spend a minute making home
blitz tests any further.

Karen



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