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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger versus Gulko

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 11:52:37 03/21/02

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On March 21, 2002 at 10:03:14, karen Dall Lynn wrote:

>On March 21, 2002 at 06:49:08, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2002 at 21:03:04, eric guttenberg wrote:
>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>I don't know which is stronger but I agree wholeheartedly with your
>>>statement that the only way to test is with many games on 2 equal
>>>computers. A lot of people (like myself) simply don't have 2 computers
>>>and playing matches on a single machine is the only option. It can be fun
>>>and can be useful for some purposes but measuring the relative strengths
>>>of various chess programs should be done in the environment for which they
>>>were designed.
>>>For that reason I have long felt that the results you publish are among the
>>>the more probative ones seen on this site. Thank you.
>>>
>>>eric
>>
>>Hello Eric,
>>Thank you for your kind words.  Just to gather some more data on F7 & CT14 I
>>played some more Blitz games last nite.  To my surprise Fritz 7 beat Chess Tiger
>>14.0 very nicely by 38.5-23.5.  This is the first time either one has won by
>>this wide margin.  But what I did was to "load up" Fritz 7.  Meaning I cleared
>>the Fritz 7 book and then let it learn from all my databases.  This gave Fritz
>>the "experience" of about 1700 games.  This seems to be a clear advantage for
>>Fritz since I cannot do this with Tiger in the Chesspartner GUI.  I haven't had
>>time to inspect the games yet so I'm still suspicious that something else may
>>have been wrong.  If not this is quite an eye opener.
>>Jim
>
>
>Hello
>
>After having many nights spent in blitz engine matches - within one computer,
>ponder on/off and dealing with many engine parameters choice arrays - I came to
>have the conviction that all these tests are perfectly *biased*. Also, I believe
>that no one can say which one of these two - F7 or CT14 - are the best; although
>I also believe that together they are the best if compared with any of the
>others. Yet I suspect CT14 may be at the top, but this is rather a non-rational,
>baseless guesswork. And I promised my-self to not spend a minute making home
>blitz tests any further.
>
>Karen

Well, what else does your computer have to do at night while you are sleeping??
Please don't turn it off and send it "gently into that goodnight."
Jim



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