Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 10:43:28 03/22/02
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On March 22, 2002 at 12:08:58, Marc van Hal wrote: >On March 22, 2002 at 05:18:07, Frankie Kam wrote: > >>Dear Chess Afficiandos >> >>What would be the Holy Grail of Computer Chess? >> >>Are there any chess positions where the best move, let's say >>Bh7!!! is a brilliant move, but even the best Chess engines take >>let's say > 1200 secs to solve - even on a K6 or Pen4 PC? >> >>Are there any concepts which would represent the holy grail >>for which engine developers are still striving for? >> >>What about an engine which thinks instinctively, and has a >>good "feel" for the position during 5-minute blitz games? >> >>So what would the holy grail be then? >> >>regards >>Frankie "Nimzo" Kam > >Again and again >Nimzo Alapin St petersburg the move 0-0-0!! Fritz 7, Junior 7 and Shredder 6.02 would have played O-O-O under tournament time. It's interesting that after O-O-O none of them takes the Knight. Enrique Nimzowitsch,A - Alapin,S [D]rnb1kb1r/1p3ppp/p5q1/4p3/3N4/4BB2/PPPQ1P1P/R3K2R w KQkq - 0 1 Analysis by Fritz 7: 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Be6 14.Nc5 Bxc5 15.Bxc5 Qf5 16.Bxc6+ bxc6 ³ (-0.46) Depth: 8/24 00:00:00 400kN 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Be6 14.Nc5 Bxc5 15.Bxc5 Qf5 16.Bxc6+ bxc6 17.Rhg1 ³ (-0.37) Depth: 9/24 00:00:00 703kN 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Bh3 14.Bd5 Rc8 15.Rhg1 Qf6 16.Nc5 Nd4 ³ (-0.34) Depth: 10/28 00:00:02 1890kN 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Bh3 14.Rhe1 Rc8 15.Bf4 f6 16.Be4 Qf7 17.Be3 ³ (-0.28) Depth: 11/29 00:00:07 5245kN 12.Nb3 Be7 13.0-0-0 Qf5 14.Bd5 Nd7 15.f4 Nf6 16.fxe5 Qxe5 17.Bf3 Ne4 18.Qe2 = (-0.25) Depth: 12/34 00:00:21 17031kN 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Be6 14.Rhg1 Qf5 15.Bg4 Qxg4 16.Rxg4 Bxg4 17.Rg1 Rd8 18.Qc3 = (-0.15) Depth: 13/38 00:00:54 43536kN 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Be6 14.Rhg1 Qf5 15.Bxc6+ bxc6 16.Qc3 Qe4 17.Nc5 Bxc5 = (-0.09) Depth: 14/36 00:02:11 107866kN 12.0-0-0! = (0.00) Depth: 14/39 00:04:06 204111kN 12.0-0-0! = (0.22) Depth: 15/40 00:10:09 500147kN 12.0-0-0 Nd7 13.Nb3 Qf5 14.Bd5 Be7 15.Rhg1 0-0 16.Bxb7 Rb8 17.Bxc8 Rfxc8 = (0.19) Depth: 16/42 00:23:02 1145389kN (Irazoqui, Cadaqués 22.03.2002) _______________ Nimzowitsch,A - Alapin,S rnb1kb1r/1p3ppp/p5q1/4p3/3N4/4BB2/PPPQ1P1P/R3K2R w KQkq - 0 1 Analysis by Junior 7.0: 12.Ne2 e4 13.Bxe4 Qxe4 -+ (-2.29) Depth: 3 00:00:00 12.Nb3 Bh3 13.Bxb7 µ (-1.34) Depth: 3 00:00:00 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.h3 Bb4 µ (-1.34) Depth: 6 00:00:00 4kN 12.Ne2! µ (-1.04) Depth: 6 00:00:00 6kN 12.Ne2 e4 13.Rg1 Qc6 14.Nd4 Qc4 15.Bxe4 Bh3 16.Bxb7 ³ (-0.39) Depth: 6 00:00:00 17kN 12.Ne2 Nd7 13.0-0-0 Qf5 14.Qd5 Qh3 ³ (-0.38) Depth: 9 00:00:00 580kN 12.Nb3 Be7 13.0-0-0 Qf5 14.Qd5 Qh3 ³ (-0.37) Depth: 9 00:00:01 813kN 12.Nb3 Nc6 13.0-0-0 Bh3 14.Rhg1 Qf5 15.Bd5 Rc8 ³ (-0.31) Depth: 12 00:00:02 2875kN 12.0-0-0! = (-0.07) Depth: 12 00:00:18 22876kN 12.0-0-0 Nd7 13.Rhg1 Qf6 14.Bg5 Qb6 15.Nb3 h6 16.Be3 Qe6 17.Qd5 ² (0.29) Depth: 12 00:00:21 27290kN 12.0-0-0 Nd7 13.Rhg1 Qd6 14.Nf5 Qxd2+ 15.Rxd2 g6 16.Nd6+ Bxd6 17.Rxd6 h6 18.Be4 ² (0.49) Depth: 14 00:00:26 32187kN 12.0-0-0 Nd7 13.Rhg1 Qd6 14.Nf5 Qxd2+ 15.Rxd2 g6 16.Nd6+ Bxd6 17.Rxd6 Ke7 18.Rgd1 Rd8 19.Bh6 ² (0.46) Depth: 16 00:01:11 84332kN 12.0-0-0 Nd7 13.Rhg1 Qd6 14.Nf5 Qxd2+ 15.Rxd2 g6 16.Nd6+ Bxd6 17.Rxd6 Ke7 18.Rgd1 h6 19.R6d3 ² (0.52) Depth: 17 00:05:19 381060kN (Irazoqui, Cadaqués 22.03.2002) _____________________ Nimzowitsch,A - Alapin,S rnb1kb1r/1p3ppp/p5q1/4p3/3N4/4BB2/PPPQ1P1P/R3K2R w KQkq - 0 1 Analysis by Shredder 6.02: 12.0-0-0 exd4 13.Bxd4 = (-0.02) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 12.0-0-0 exd4 13.Qxd4 ³ (-0.51) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 12.Ne2 ² (0.43) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 12.Ne2 ² (0.43) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Qd6 = (0.05) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Nc6 = (0.01) Depth: 2/4 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Nc6 13.Bxc6+ Qxc6 14.0-0-0 ² (0.32) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Qd5 Qxc2 14.Qxe5+ Be6 15.Bxb7 ² (0.62) Depth: 3/6 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Bc6+ Nxc6 14.Qd7+ Qxd7 ² (0.37) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Qd5 Nc6 = (0.20) Depth: 4/8 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Qd5 Bb4+ 14.c3 Bd6 ² (0.45) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Qf5 14.Qd5 Qxc2 15.Rxg7 Qxb2 ± (0.79) Depth: 5/10 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Qf6 14.Bf4 exf4 15.Nxf4 ² (0.54) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Qf6 14.Bg2 0-0 = (0.04) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Qf6 14.Qd5 0-0 = (-0.14) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 12.Nb3 Be7 13.0-0-0 Qf5 14.Qd5 = (-0.13) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 12.Nb3 Be7 13.0-0-0 0-0 14.Rhg1 Qe6 = (0.22) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 12.Nb3 Be7 13.Rg1 Qxg1+ 14.Ke2 Qxh2 = (0.22) Depth: 6/12 00:00:00 12.Nb3 Be7 13.0-0-0 Qxc2+ 14.Qxc2 Ra7 15.Bxa7 ² (0.47) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 76kN 12.Nb3 Be7 13.0-0-0 0-0 14.Rhg1 Qf5 15.Qd5 ± (0.73) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 91kN 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Bd7 14.Rxg6 hxg6 ± (0.74) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 104kN 12.Ne2 Qd6 13.Bd5 Nc6 14.0-0-0 Nb4 15.Nc3 Nxd5 16.Nxd5 ± (0.75) Depth: 7/14 00:00:00 129kN 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Qf6 14.0-0-0 Qxf3 15.Qd8+ Bxd8 16.Rxd8+ Kxd8 ² (0.50) Depth: 8/16 00:00:01 232kN 12.Ne2 Be7 13.Rg1 Qf6 14.Qd5 0-0 15.0-0-0 Rd8 ² (0.43) Depth: 8/16 00:00:01 270kN 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Bd5 Be7 14.Ng3 Qg4 15.f3 Qb4 16.0-0-0 Qxd2+ 17.Rxd2 ² (0.61) Depth: 9/18 00:00:03 906kN 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Bd5 Be7 14.Ng3 Qg4 15.Rg1 ² (0.36) Depth: 10/20 00:00:05 1437kN 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.0-0-0 Be7 14.Bg2 0-0 15.Ng3 e4 16.Nxf5 Bxf5 ² (0.36) Depth: 10/20 00:00:05 1578kN 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Bd5 Be7 14.Ng3 Qg4 15.f3 Qg6 16.0-0 0-0 17.Qa5 ² (0.40) Depth: 11/22 00:00:15 4486kN 12.Ne2 Qf5 13.Bd5 Nc6 14.0-0-0 Be7 15.Bxc6+ bxc6 16.Bg5 Qxg5 17.Rhg1 Qxd2+ 18.Kb1 Qxe2 19.Rd8+ Kxd8 ² (0.56) Depth: 12/24 00:00:32 9552kN 12.Ne2 Qd6 13.Qxd6 Bxd6 14.Rg1 g6 15.0-0-0 Bc7 16.Nc3 0-0 17.Nd5 Bd8 18.Bc5 Re8 19.Kb1 ² (0.61) Depth: 13/26 00:01:31 27471kN 12.0-0-0 exd4 13.Bxd4 Nc6 14.Bxc6+ Qxc6 15.Bxg7 Qxc2+ 16.Kxc2 Bf5+ 17.Kc3 Rc8+ 18.Kb3 Bc2+ 19.Qxc2 ² (0.62) Depth: 13/26 00:02:16 40849kN 12.0-0-0 exd4 13.Bxd4 Nc6 14.Bxc6+ Qxc6 15.Bxg7 Qxc2+ 16.Kxc2 Bf5+ 17.Kc3 Rc8+ 18.Kb3 Be6+ 19.Ka4 Bd7+ 20.Ka5 Bb4+ 21.Qxb4 ± (0.97) Depth: 13/26 00:02:32 45775kN 12.0-0-0 Be7 13.Rhg1 Qd6 14.Qc3 Qc5 15.Ne2 Qxc3 16.Nxc3 g6 17.Nd5 Bd8 18.Bg5 Bxg5+ 19.Rxg5 Bd7 20.Rxe5+ +- (1.53) Depth: 13/26 00:06:04 107909kN 12.0-0-0 Be7 13.Rhg1 Qd6 14.Qc3 Qc5 15.Nf5 Qxc3 16.Nxg7+ Kf8 17.bxc3 h6 18.Be4 Nc6 19.Nf5 Bxf5 20.Bxf5 +- (1.55) Depth: 14/28 00:09:37 168936kN 12.0-0-0 Nd7 13.Rhg1 Qd6 14.Qe2 g6 15.Nb3 Qc7 16.Bd2 Nc5 17.Nxc5 Qxc5 18.Bf4 +- (1.58) Depth: 15/30 00:17:37 306392kN (Irazoqui, Cadaqués 22.03.2002)
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