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Subject: Re: GM Gulko Could even play better than GM Van Wely Vs Computers ?!

Author: bob o

Date: 05:31:21 03/23/02

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On March 23, 2002 at 06:23:21, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>Most people here consider GM Gulko a weak player, simple because of his Fide
>rating of only 2602.

I hardly consider anyone with 2400+ a "weak" player. Granted, he's not Kasparov
or Kramnik, but he's not Joe Patzer over at the local chess club either.

>But what most of us here don't even consider is that GM
>Gulko has faced stronger opponents than GM Van Vely such as Kasparov and even
>have a better record against Kasparov than most 2700 rated players. Now against
>Computers, lets simply forget the fact that Gulko beat Deep Thought in 1989, and
>lets consider only his latest match against four of the top best programs
>excluding Chess Tiger and Rebel Century 4, which could be aproximately the same
>level playing GM than these four programs. I Know that there would be plenty of
>people here on ICC that will argue this until midnight
>, but if we match GM Van Wely against Deep Junior in G/60 Plus 10 sec per move,
>I don't think that he would have scored better than GM Gulko.

I'm of the opinion that anyone who's over, say, 2400 and is willing to play an
ugly game of chess can probably find an effective anticomputer method. It's
getting harder and harder to do, but I still think it can be done. That 2602 was
based on playing humans, and as we all know, that's totally different than
playing machines.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/honor.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/on/anticomputer/

I just think that alot of GM's who are playing these computers wouldn't want to
play "ugly" chess.

Bob



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