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Subject: Re: complete rewrite of Chess System Tal

Author: José Carlos

Date: 14:31:43 03/23/02

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On March 23, 2002 at 13:16:45, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On March 23, 2002 at 12:07:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>  Sometimes the search baloons and CSTal can't handle the tactics.
>>>It needed a complete re-write to speed up it's search.
>
>>It is possible that a complete re-write can help but I believe that chess system
>>tal waste most of it's time on the evaluation so in order to speed the search
>>without changing the program chris needs to calculate the same evaluation
>>faster.
>
>>I tend to believe that it is possible to get a significant speed improvement but
>>not easy.
>>My guess is that if the quality of the programmers is the same then usually the
>>more complicated program has more potential for speed improvement.
>>
>>Uri
>
>as far as i know chris was shortly before a complete rewrite of the engine.
>
>The new user interface GUI 2.5 had parts of these rewrite as test-engines.
>
>So in fact he was doing rewriting and - as far as i remember it - it was much
>faster.
>
>but - in those time when he did this, he was completely frustrated by various
>things.
>
>there were e.g. many people downloading the ONLY FOR PROGRAMMERS licenced
>2.5 version, which had no working chess engine, and those guys made serious
>testing of a broken engine and posted results of "LATEST CSTal".
>
>also his arguments in forum. I think there were quite a few.
>i think he was banned again. and again.
>also he was in negotations with purple in that time. also he
>did this shogi program. and lots of other stuff.
>
>overall, he decided to quit.
>
>i think his decision was ok.
>when the amount of idiots within a group reaches a critical mass,
>it makes not much sense anymore to talk with them.
>
>leaving this group makes much sense than.
>
>for him the amount of boring and narrow computerchess programmers
>not really interested in chess was too big.
>
>he often called them the programmers withou having the ability to speak.
>as if they were dumb.
>
>so - he is a rich man now. in capitalism becoming a rich man
>is the main target.
>
>he made this money because he was more succesful than other
>chess programmers.
>
>i think he lives at this river. maybe he does some fishing.
>plays with his children in a big garden. makes lots of parties
>like the one i have joint in, and discusses long into the evenings
>about all kind ofn interesting things.
>
>i wish him all the best.
>
>his world was IMO not narrow. he had a mind full of interesting ideas.
>and we had a nice time.
>all the letters, the fax, the telephone calls, the emails, the games,
>we exchanged. and the program we worked on.
>
>it was a good time.
>
>the dreams come through. we beated genius at a championship, with a sac.
>i mean : what else do you want ?
>we had some nice discussions in RGCC.
>what else ?

  What about releasing his source code? I mean, if he is not interested in chess
programming anymore, and he has enough money to live more than well, he could
help the world understanding his ideas and allowing his work to last forever in
the minds of new talented programmers.
  Or he could sell the sources. I bet many people would like to buy them.

  José C.



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