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Subject: Re: !computer

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 20:34:47 03/23/02

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I have been on ICC on and off (mostly on) for about 3 years.  3 years ago,
!computer (C) users were pretty rare.  Everyone *feared* Crafty, and the GM's
were mostly king.

A *lot* has changed.  Crafty was automated 3 years ago, while Fritz 5.32 was
not.  Manual operators could not play 3/0, and had to sit at the computer at
every minute.  Therefore, they would play whoever/whatever they could.  Hyatt's
quad 550/700 was a "supercomputer" 3 years ago, but today, it's equivalant to
about an AMD 1.7Ghz machine.

Today, people can turn on their computers, walk away, and a month later they
will still be connected to ICC.  Therefore, they can play faster time controls,
stay connected longer, play more games, and mostly, they don't have to make the
moves.  Therefore you can be a *lot* more picky about who you play.

My guess is, people put !computer in their formula for one of two reasons:

1.) They truly are not interested in the performance of their program/computer
against other computers/setups.  They simply want to gauge their
program/computers performance strictly against humans.

2.) They are scared their setups are not enough to be competitive against the
other computers/programs on ICC.  They want the higher ratings.  Therefore,
playing humans is their only option.

To *me* !computer is silly.  90% of the games played on ICC are blitz, and
everyone knows computers are the King of blitz games.  So what's the point?
Getting a 3500+ rating only playing humans is *not* an accomplishment.  Play
enough games, get enough GMs to play you, and it's that easy.

HOWEVER, !computer accounts *DO* piss me off.  For one reason.  They cause the
GMs to only play the !computer accounts.  Why?  Most GMs are there for 2
reasons:  1.) it's a free account and 2.) to make money.  I personally know at
least 4 GMs who make their _entire_ living off teaching and playing others on
ICC.  Well, to get their ratings higher, they have to play the computer accounts
with !computer in their formula, because they have the highest ratings.
Therefore, I end up getting FAR less GMs games, because I don't have a 3500
rating like they do.


My 2 cents......



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