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Subject: Re: !computer (Is an Ego Trip)

Author: Chessfun

Date: 23:56:18 03/23/02

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On March 23, 2002 at 19:55:08, Nolan Denson wrote:

>Ever tried to play a game on ICC and all you get its the computer accts with the
>!computer. I feel that operators that are not the original owner of beta test
>have no right to use such a formula. It such only be allowed for those that are
>developing there software.  It pisses me off because I am working on a beta
>version of Pepito and I can't get a game because of all those so called want to
>be operators uses the !computer. Like I said I don't mind guys like Dr Hyatt
>using such a formula because they are the owners. But guys that can't play a
>lick of chess gets there ego off by watching their computors play nothing but
>humans ... Whats the purpose of those accounts. ( Little people with little
>minds.) To me those kind of operators are ruining what you to be a fun place to
>test software. ... I say anyone that uses the !computer be put into a section
>where the only see other programs with the !computer ... that way they can sit
>and watch each other all day.
>
>Maybe I am wrong .. Maybe someone can shed a little more light on the operators
>with the !computer.


Here is another two cents on this subject.
I don't have an ICC account but I do at chessnet and yes I have !computer in my
formula.

As far as ICC is concerned if someone wants to pay for the account they should
have the right to play anyone they choose. If that person is often changing
formulas to !computer and computer then you can if you wish simply ignore them
as others can.

Back to my account.
I have two pc's and can run as many pc games as I wish with more accurate
results, without using a server. As my PC's are identical, I can guarantee the
set up of both programs. Book in use, optimization etc.

Whats the point in playing my version of Tiger 14 on my AMD 1200 against someone
using say Deep Junior on 2.6 ghz?. What's to be gained from that for either of
the operators.

I am interested however in seeing ideas from strong humans, in particular in the
opening. This for me serves two purposes. One it causes me to think about my own
games and two it allows me to make and evaluate stronger book lines, which I do
use.

Personally when beta testing a program I would never consider playing on a
server the best way to do it. Only time I would even log onto a server would be
to check the programs function on the server.

Sarah.





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