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Subject: Re: !computer (Is an Ego Trip)

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 00:29:37 03/24/02

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On March 24, 2002 at 02:56:18, Chessfun wrote:

>On March 23, 2002 at 19:55:08, Nolan Denson wrote:
>
>>Ever tried to play a game on ICC and all you get its the computer accts with the
>>!computer. I feel that operators that are not the original owner of beta test
>>have no right to use such a formula. It such only be allowed for those that are
>>developing there software.  It pisses me off because I am working on a beta
>>version of Pepito and I can't get a game because of all those so called want to
>>be operators uses the !computer. Like I said I don't mind guys like Dr Hyatt
>>using such a formula because they are the owners. But guys that can't play a
>>lick of chess gets there ego off by watching their computors play nothing but
>>humans ... Whats the purpose of those accounts. ( Little people with little
>>minds.) To me those kind of operators are ruining what you to be a fun place to
>>test software. ... I say anyone that uses the !computer be put into a section
>>where the only see other programs with the !computer ... that way they can sit
>>and watch each other all day.
>>
>>Maybe I am wrong .. Maybe someone can shed a little more light on the operators
>>with the !computer.
>
>
>Here is another two cents on this subject.
>I don't have an ICC account but I do at chessnet and yes I have !computer in my
>formula.
>
>As far as ICC is concerned if someone wants to pay for the account they should
>have the right to play anyone they choose. If that person is often changing
>formulas to !computer and computer then you can if you wish simply ignore them
>as others can.

I agree!  When did chess.net start charging?  :D

>Back to my account.
>I have two pc's and can run as many pc games as I wish with more accurate
>results, without using a server. As my PC's are identical, I can guarantee the
>set up of both programs. Book in use, optimization etc.

_Very_ true.  However, on ICC there are *several* chess engines that are not
available.  Postmodernist, Monsoon, QueenMaxima, there are tons.  And there is
probably _nothing_ more disrespectful than a !computer account machining another
computer.

>Whats the point in playing my version of Tiger 14 on my AMD 1200 against someone
>using say Deep Junior on 2.6 ghz?. What's to be gained from that for either of
>the operators.

Well, maybe nothing.  But what happens if all you have is a 2.6Ghz computer and
a copy of DJ?  What if you don't want to have 15 engines, you just want to use
one?  Not everyone has 2 computers, and *ALL* the Chessbase engines!

>I am interested however in seeing ideas from strong humans, in particular in the
>opening. This for me serves two purposes. One it causes me to think about my own
>games and two it allows me to make and evaluate stronger book lines, which I do
>use.
>
>Personally when beta testing a program I would never consider playing on a
>server the best way to do it. Only time I would even log onto a server would be
>to check the programs function on the server.
>
>Sarah.



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