Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 02:42:22 03/25/02
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On March 25, 2002 at 00:12:45, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >I cannot comment on the security issues, as I just have no experience here. But, >based on the *official* bugtrack statistics, there is comparable number of the >expoisable bugs in both OSes, Windows is slightly better here (sorry, don't have >link with me at home). Most recent Windows attacks actually exploited Windows >*users*, not system "per se". > I think that those bugtraq stats are somewhat misleading, for two reasons: (1) They seem to count a problem with Linux as several problems: if RedHat, SuSE and Mandrake all address the same security problem with a patch, bugtraq *seems* to count that as three problems. (2) They seem to count security-related patches to *distributions* as the same as security-related patches to OS components. My SuSE distribution comes on a six CDs (I also get a DVD with the same stuff on it). That's over 3GB of applications. Bugtraq has been known to count security-related patches to those *applications* as security bugs, in the same way that it counts security-related patches to Windows. AFAIK, there's nothing "official" about bugtraq, except in their own terms. Andrew PS How do you distinguish between an attack on a user and an attack on a system? >And if you want you can get access to the Windows source code. For details look, >for example, at http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/sharedsource/default.asp. >Faculty, staff, and students in more than 120 academic institutions throughout >the world have such the access. > >Eugene > >On March 24, 2002 at 23:56:37, pavel wrote: > >>On March 24, 2002 at 23:22:05, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On March 24, 2002 at 22:55:55, pavel wrote: >>> >>>>On March 24, 2002 at 21:12:41, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 24, 2002 at 20:59:46, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>http://theregus.com/content/4/24406.html >>>>>> >>>>>>If only I could run all my chess softwares without any problems under FreeBSD or >>>>>>Linux!... >>>>>> >>>>>>A. Ponti >>>>> >>>>>On which version? I Believe that new Linux kernels are coming out weekly, right? >>>>>:-) >>>>> >>>>>Eugene >>>> >>>>Obviously , its not the same as windows patches. >>>>Patches for windows has been a habit since its first realease, for every single >>>>version. >>>>I dont think you can say the same for Linux distros. They are far less frequent, >>>>that is, if you realy want to compare. >>>> >>>>By the way, care to release the source of windows? ;) >>>> >>>>pavs >>> >>>If you want to get technical: >>> >>>Windows 2000 was released on February 17th, 2000. It has had 2 Service Packs, >>>and 4 security "patches". >>> >>>Linux 7 (RedHat) was released on September 25th, 2000. It too, has had 2 >>>Service Packs, and 4 security "alerts". >> >>No there wasnt only 4 patches! >>I remember several more, most very serious. >>My point is, if you want to compare, there is simply no comparision between >>windows and linux, period. >> >>Ever tried to install patches for all 30+ computers in a LAN, running windows? I >>hope not! >> >>Again, you are referring RedHat, as if it is "THE Linux", it isn't. >> >>> >>> >>>And the source comment is just silly. Why not ask Ed to release the source to >>>Rebel, or Amir and Shay to release the source to Junior. Come on.....get real. >>> >>>The source to Rebel is Ed's livelihood. The source to Windows is 60,000+ >>>families livelihood. >> >> >>Chill! >>its a joke! >> >> >> >>pavs
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