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Subject: Re: Ferret vs Gerbil

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:17:10 03/25/02

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On March 25, 2002 at 13:00:11, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On March 25, 2002 at 12:50:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 25, 2002 at 12:21:46, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On March 25, 2002 at 12:14:13, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 25, 2002 at 11:49:40, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>On March 25, 2002 at 11:07:54, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>On March 25, 2002 at 06:18:19, Michael Vox wrote:
>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>Can someone explain to me the difference between Gerbil and Ferret ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>About 1000 ELO.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that the difference is smaller.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gerbil can probably get more than 2000 at tournament time control
>>>>>against humans when ferret cannot get more than 2800.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not say that it can get 2800 and 2800 is only an upper bound when
>>>>>2000 is only a lower bound.
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess the practical difference is about 500 elo
>>>>>(Maybe Gerbil 2150 fide elo and Ferret 2650 fide elo).
>>>>
>>>>Yes, you are probably right.  I was really just being cheeky.  It would have
>>>>been more sensible to just say 'Ferret is enormously stronger than Gerbil'.
>>>>
>>>>Ferret is one of the world's strongest chess engines.
>>>>Gerbil is a simple learning engine.
>>>>The gulf is enormous, but surely not 1000 ELO in reality.  Probably 500 is a
>>>>better estimate.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is the Gerbil's source well documented? (I didnt get it yet)
>>>And perhaps a good source to start learning with, like TSCP?
>>>Is it in C?
>>>
>>>pavs
>>
>>Gerbil is clearly more complicated than tscp and gerbil
>>is also clearly better than tscp.
>>
>>Gerbil is using hash tables and ponder when tscp does not.
>>
>>Uri
>
>My personal favorite is Beowulf, it is much more readable than Gerbil IMO.
>
>Crafty is also not bad once you get the hang of it, I get ideas everytime I look
>at it :)
>
>-S.

The only program that I read most of it is tscp.
There are often too many files in other programs and I usually do not
know where to start to read.

Uri



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