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Subject: Re: Hammer info. And som SMP musings.

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 07:51:53 03/26/02

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On March 26, 2002 at 10:37:30, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>my argument is that the big and advanced branch prediction of the
>alpha and the 4 instructions versus 3 of the alpha and the huge
>L1 and L2 caches of it, add to that cheating on specbench; all that
>together brings 33% speedup compared to a 32 bits processor.
>
>I do not see the 32 to 64 bits speedup for the alpha at all. For sure
>not a factor 2 as claimed at some places.

But you keep comparing a 1.6 GHz K7 to a 1 GHz Alpha, naturally that will even
things out. But the Hammer won't be running at 1 GHz.

>If you claim 10-15% that's already a far smaller claim than other
>claims i saw here, majority is still claiming factor 2 to my amazement.
>
>Truth is that it is way harder to clock a 64 bits processor at 3Ghz
>than it is to clock a 32 bits processor at 3Ghz.

Yep, that's where I have to agree with you, it might be that the Hammer will end
up running 500-1000 MHz slower than the cheaper 32-bit chips, at least in the
beginning. But 32-bit won't stay around forever.

Actually the original post only said 10-15%, but compared to what?
I just assumed is was a K7 32-bit chip at the same clock speed.

>We will see when we can afford processors that are 64 bits AND doing
>that faster than 32 bits equivalents.

Most bang for the buck is a different discussion....

-S.



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