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Subject: Re: Hammer info. And som SMP musings.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:18:21 03/26/02

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On March 26, 2002 at 20:29:19, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>I would not trust POWER4 SPECint number too much. It was obtained at a multi-CPU
>system with shared L3 cache when all CPUs but one were idle, so that one CPU
>actually could use 16*8 == 128Mb of L3 cache. I doubt anybody ever will use
>similar system for single-process calculations.
>
>Eugene
>


The cache _must_ be NUMA however.  There is no way to have a cache
with that many ports without degrading cycle time horrendously.  I'll
bet there is much more to this that just a bigger cache issue...


>
>On March 26, 2002 at 17:24:45, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On March 26, 2002 at 14:29:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>If a 64 bits processor isn't faster than a 32 bits processor the processor
>>>is nothing more than a bad joke of course.
>>
>>Why is that? You might as well say any processor that's not the fastest in the
>>world is a bad joke. I don't see why the datapath width matters. And you're
>>saying "faster" now instead of "clocked higher." If you want to talk faster, the
>>POWER4 posts higher SPECint numbers than all current 32-bit processors.
>>
>>>>No matter how hard you backpedal, you're not going to get out of your idiot
>>>>statement that "not a single 64 bits processor is clocked *near* 32 bits
>>>>processors."
>>>
>>>I'm very right here. fastest 32 bits processor which i can buy is
>>>clocked at 2.4Ghz now. Fastest 64 bits processor (let's not even
>>>mention its insane price) is the power4 or something 1.3Ghz if
>>>i remember well?
>>
>>You said "32 bits processors," not the fastest 32-bit processor. The POWER4, at
>>1.3GHz, is most certainly clocked *near* (your word) the 1.7GHz Athlon, which is
>>a perfectly good 32-bit processor.
>>
>>-Tom



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