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Subject: Re: I think it's pretty Common Knowledge now

Author: Chessfun

Date: 15:42:41 03/27/02

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On March 27, 2002 at 17:09:27, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On March 27, 2002 at 13:09:16, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On March 27, 2002 at 12:52:27, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>OK that was what you meant, was an extraordinary claim.
>>Mine is that you wrote;
>>
>>"There are plenty of games at ICC where GM's and IM's are still winning more
>>than losing to comps."
>
>Well there are wether you are aware of it or not.


Then we just come back to, as I previously wrote;
"Please name just one".


>So you concur they are Super GM's? Maybe at G/2 but not at slow time controls.
>You're right though, it's opinion, not _scientific_ fact!


I never gave my opinion. Simply stated Chris Carson posted a list in support of
his arguments.

>>>GM Roland Schmaltz, aka Hawkeye, probably has a good score against computers and
>>>I'm certain there are a few more, who play at ICC. I know he's LETHAL to most
>>>humans!;) Of course I know you know the latter. Who doesn't?:)
>>
>>Actually I doubt Hawkeye has a good record. He won't AFAIK even play them
>>anymore.
>So you don't know. He has a super record against humans, so it is
>logical he must win many or quite a few games against computers as well, maybe
>not as well as human matches, but not all humans are so bad against machines.
>I may be wrong, maybe I should contact him? However, then I would only have
>his word not proof, if he told me he faired 60/40 or whatever the number.
>Niether of us can know for certain.


Yes maybe he does win quite a few. But there is a big difference between quite a
few and; "GM's and IM's are still winning more than losing to comps."


>>I know of NO human playing on ICC who has a positive result against a
>>professional program at any controls. Especially in mind is they play more than
>>one game.

>So you don't actually know do you? Not for certain, as I can't know with any
>real certainty either?


Then you shouldn't have made the statement. I simply challenged you to prove
your statement.

Sarah.




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