Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 16:12:16 03/27/02
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On March 27, 2002 at 18:21:50, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 27, 2002 at 17:09:27, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On March 27, 2002 at 13:09:16, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On March 27, 2002 at 12:52:27, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On March 27, 2002 at 10:04:32, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Please name just one. The most well known Roman himself under the Jrlok handle >>>>>>>has a score of +1 =0 -5 against Rebelrex. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sarah. >>>>>> >>>>>>Those are biltz games, and if 3/0 them bullet, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>3/0 is still blitz, however thse were 5/12. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> and comps. are better at bullet >>>>>>then almost anyone! >>>>>> >>>>>>Why should I do all the searches, it is up to people who claim that comps. are >>>>>>indeed better than all humans except for the top ten or so IE 2700+ in the world >>>>>>on (PC's no less) to prove it not me. >>>>> >>>>>You made a statement. >>>>>If your statement is challenged it's up to you to prove you are correct. >>>>> >>>>>>"Extraordinary Claims need Extraoridinary Evidence"! >>>>> >>>>>My point above. I never made an extraordinary claim! *See Below. >>>>> >>>>>Sarah. >>>> >>>> Please treat me with a little respect, ok? I certainly have shown you this >>>>courtesy. >>> >>> >>>I don't think I've said anything for you to feel otherwise. >>>I apologize if you feel my comments were unfair. Ok... >>> >>> >>>>*It was _not_ *I* who _claimed_ computers play at 2700+! That's the >>>>extraordinary claim. >>> >>> >>>OK that was what you meant, was an extraordinary claim. >>>Mine is that you wrote; >>> >>>"There are plenty of games at ICC where GM's and IM's are still winning more >>>than losing to comps." >> >>Well there are wether you are aware of it or not. There are plenty of games >>lost by them as well, mostly at blitz and bullet. Nothing extraordinary there. >>Just a few years ago, when I was in better form I was beating strong programmes >>at blitz, G/5 and I'm not a GM. > >Few years ago programs were clearly weaker than their level today but even at >that time programs were better than GM's at blitz and Fritz3(p90) won a blitz >tournament together with kasparov and only lost against kasparov in a special >match for the first place. > >You can say that they did not know Fritz3's weaknesses but I believe that even >at that time Fritz3 could beat almost every GM in a serious blitz match when >the program does not play more than 2 games per day(white and black) and the >programmer has the right to change the program every day. > > >I believe that no human today can get even 25% against Junior and Fritz on good >hardware if the match is done in the following way: > >1)Every day the human play 4 blitz games of 6 minutes per game(2 games against >Fritz and 2 games against Junior). > >2)The programmers of Junior and Fritz have the right to update their program >every day between games. > >Uri I believe there are exceptions to the rule. You underestimate human ingenuity! BTW I guess I must play like a GM if all you say is true, at least when I was in better form!:o) Terry
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