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Subject: Re: Cool AMD 450 Mhz....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:16:57 07/10/98

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On July 10, 1998 at 13:39:42, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 10, 1998 at 06:53:00, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>>Posted by Kim Hvarre on July 10, 1998 at 05:46:37:
>>
>>>In Reply to: Re: Cool AMD 450 Mhz.... posted by Robert Hyatt on July 10,
>>>1998 at 00:35:52:
>>
>>>On July 10, 1998 at 00:35:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>snipsnip
>>
>>>>Somehow our benchmarks are different.  First, I don't see how the Xeon is better
>>>>at context-switching than a normal PII.. that is independent of cache
>>>>completely.  however, I have benched my P6/200 vs PII/300's and get 1.41 every
>>>>time I try, using crafty.  The first benchmark data I got on a Xeon (source I
>>>>can't reveal) was exactly 2.25X faster than what I am getting on my P6/200.
>>>>This makes sense as crafty has no MMX code whatsoever, so that both processors
>>>>are using the same core technology and relative cache speeds.   But note that I
>>>>am a real 32-bit application here with no known-to-be-bad stuff tucked away to
>>>>hurt performance.
>>
>>>>For comparison, the AMD K6 seems a perfect match for the P6/200 when the clocks
>>>>are matched...  But the Xeon is clocked faster..
>>
>>>Qouting from Ed's benchmarkpage:
>>
>>>Pentium PRO 200      1:02    7:38    1:57     0:19    4:56   0:26
>>>Cyrix 200            1:22   10:12    2:20     0:17    3:45   0:22
>>>AMD K6 200           0:47    5:50    1:30     0:15    3:45   0:20
>>
>>>one must (?) conclude, that the Rebelcode has "known-to-be-bad stuffed tucked
>>>away" or?
>>
>>I do not think the better performance of Rebel on AMD in comparison with
>>Intel chips is related to the code. Rebel since version 6 is a normal
>>32-bit application.
>>
>>From postings from other programmers I noticed that AMD also runs their
>>programs faster than Intel.
>>
>
>Im not sure why AMD runs some programs faster. Most programs run faster on the P
>II chip. But most chess programs run faster on AMD, but not all. I have asked
>many time why this is so. One programmer told me it was due to the code and how
>it was compiled. I think Bob has said his program runs best on the intel chip.
>

actually, in my case, I can't tell 'em apart, if the clocks are the same.  IE
the first AMD K6/233 I tried was about 15% faster than a pentium pro 200, which
is about what you'd expect comparing only clock frequency.



>>At the moment AMD by far is simply the best processor around.
>>
>>But the Intel (slot-2) is coming, will it out-perform AMD?
>>
>>Maybe, but certainly not in price. The last I read the chip will cost $4500.
>>
>>I pity Intel :)
>>
>>- Ed -
>>
>>
>>>As You know these figures are average from several users. Perhaps the diff.
>>>comes from the L1 cache - I don't remember where PP differ from K6 in that
>>>respect.
>>
>>>kim



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