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Subject: Re: Can Black take the pawn here?

Author: Chessfun

Date: 14:35:09 03/28/02

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On March 28, 2002 at 17:28:38, John Merlino wrote:

>On March 28, 2002 at 15:55:15, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>
>>[d] rn1qkbnr/pbpp2pp/1p2p3/5P2/2PP4/3B4/PP3PPP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq - 0 4
>>
>>The GM annotator to a game says that White wins as follows if Black plays
>>5...Bxg2, but Fritz does not agree:
>>
>>"5...Bxg2 6.Qh5+ g6 7.fxg6 Bg7 8.gxh7+ Kf8 9.Bg5!! Nf6 10.Qh4 Bxh1 11.Ne2
>>planning Nf4, and even a rook down, White's attack is too strong."
>>
>>Fritz thinks Black is better here, with 11...Na6 or 11...Kf7 being best.
>>
>>Is 5...Bxg2 really bad?  If so, is this line the refutation?  If so, how does
>>White continue?
>
>Chessmaster also does not agree. Here's the analysis after 11.Ne2 (the PV says
>the move number is 10 because your FEN string and your analysis above does not
>agree on the move number):
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	-2.17	1624		10...Bf3 11.Nd2 Bxe2 12.Kxe2
>0:00	1/3	-2.37	2072		10...d6 11.Nd2 Bb7 12.O-O-O
>0:00	1/3	-2.40	2669		10...c5 11.Nd2 d5 12.O-O-O dxc4
>					13.Nxc4
>0:00	1/3	-2.46	4500		10...Bb7 11.Nbc3 d5 12.cxd5 exd5
>0:00	1/3	-2.53	5337		10...d5 11.Nf4 Kf7 12.Qh5+ Ke7
>0:00	1/4	-1.94	6477		10...d5 11.Nf4 Kf7 12.Qh5+ Ke7
>					13.Ng6+ Kd7 14.Bxf6 Qxf6 15.Nxh8
>					Bxh8
>0:00	1/4	-2.31	6804		10...Bf3 11.Nd2 Bxe2 12.Bxe2 Nc6
>0:00	1/4	-2.48	8028		10...c5 11.dxc5 bxc5 12.Nd2 d6
>					13.O-O-O
>0:00	2/5	-2.16	19755		10...c5 11.Nf4 Kf7 12.Nh5 Rf8 13.Nxg7
>					Kxg7 14.dxc5 bxc5
>0:00	2/5	-2.31	21989		10...Bf3 11.Nd2 Bxe2 12.Bxe2 Nc6
>0:00	2/5	-2.41	27402		10...Nc6 11.Nd2 Nb4 12.Bg6 d6
>0:00	2/6	-2.53	36335		10...Nc6 11.Nd2 Nb4 12.Bg6 d6 13.Qh3
>0:02	3/7	-2.24	129583		10...Nc6 11.Nd2 Kf7 12.O-O-O Nb4
>					13.Bb1 Bb7 14.Re1
>0:08	3/8	-2.29	404071		10...Nc6 11.Nd2 Kf7 12.Nf4 Ne7
>					13.O-O-O Bb7 14.Nh5
>0:26	4/9	-1.76	1462170		10...Nc6 11.Nf4 Nb4 12.Bg6 Ke7
>					13.Nd2 Bb7 14.Nh5 Qf8 15.Nxg7 Qxg7
>2:28	4/10	-1.40	8515263		10...Nc6 11.Ng3 d5 12.Nxh1 dxc4
>					13.Be4 Nxd4 14.Bxa8 Qxa8 15.Qxd4
>					Qxh1+ 16.Ke2 Nd5
>
>Here's what CM says in the initial position (take the pawn!):
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	-2.07	1825		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bb4+
>					7.Nd2 Bxd2+ 8.Bxd2 Bxh1 9.gxh7+ Kf8
>0:00	1/4	0.80	5920		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Nf6 7.g7+
>					Nxh5 8.gxh8=Q Bxh1 9.Qxh7
>0:00	1/4	0.72	9353		4...Bb4+ 5.Kf1 Nf6 6.a3 Bd6 7.Nc3
>0:00	2/5	0.56	29194		4...Bb4+ 5.Kf1 exf5 6.a3 Bd6 7.Bxf5
>					Nf6
>0:01	2/6	0.71	75311		4...Bb4+ 5.Kf1 exf5 6.a3 Bd6 7.Bxf5
>					Ne7 8.Bg5
>0:01	2/6	0.31	96325		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7 7.gxh7+
>					Kf8 8.Bg5 Ne7 9.Bxe7+ Qxe7
>0:04	3/7	0.08	247439		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7 7.Bg5
>					Qc8 8.gxh7+ Kf8 9.Qg4 Bxh1 10.Qf4+
>					Nf6 11.Bxf6
>0:09	3/8	0.08	626673		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7 7.Bg5
>					Qc8 8.gxh7+ Kf8 9.Qg4 Bxh1 10.Qf4+
>					Nf6 11.Bxf6
>0:29	4/9	-0.65	2072614		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7 7.gxh7+
>					Kf8 8.hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 9.Qg6 Bxh1 10.Nd2
>					Nc6 11.Ngf3 Qf8
>1:51	4/10	-0.72	7999422		4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7 7.gxh7+
>					Kf8 8.Qg6 Bxh1 9.hxg8=Q+ Rxg8 10.Nc3
>					Bxd4 11.Bh6+ Bg7 12.O-O-O
>6:38	5/11	-0.67	31336451	4...Bxg2 5.Qh5+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7 7.gxh7+
>					Kf8 8.hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 9.Qg4 Bxh1 10.Bg5
>					Qe8 11.Nc3 Qh5 12.Qg3 Qxh2
>
>jm

Hi John,
        I saw another post earlier where you had the CM using tablebase.
Will this be a standard feature of CM9000?. What other chnages/features will be
new?. Is this CM9000 being tested against other programs or simply users?.

Thanks.

Sarah.




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